you can use android without google play. It's more private that way than Apple or base Android.

You install a ROM and bang, no more google bloatware or anything you might not want in your phone

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Which device? Exactly

any that has unlocked boot loader but some are better for specific ROMs

graphene OS is pretty popular but i think it only works on Pixels phones

there other, any search into "Private custom Android ROM" there tons of videos

Yeah, like I want to waste my time trying to fuck with the phone os. I want for the shot to work reliably out of the box. If you have plenty of free time or into this, then it’s for you. I need a phone that works, I have other priorities and interests

then sell your data to big brother for free brother

there is no out of the box solution since both companies make money out of milking users xD

Sure sure, stay in the illusionary wonderland of self reassurance πŸ˜‚

LineageOS works with oneplus and Samsung and stuff.. grapheme would need a pixel Ofcourse, you can even relock the bootloader on some oneplus devices with lineage

Why would I trust noname OS with anything?

You dont trust, you verify, thats kind of the whole point ? Dont think you can do that with Apple.

When was the last time you went over the source code for Android and saw no issues?

Is that all you've got?

Use the fruit device its fine, just dont be blind sighted by the obvious transparency of an open source OS that can and IS forked off from whatever Google is doing

Read the story about OpenSSL, get some understanding about FOSS and what it is in reality

So what you're saying is closed source is better because open source can have vulnerabilities? Stop lying to yourself for convenience

Fuck off, just RTFM and stop assuming what I mean or think 🀣

You assumed that I wasnt aware of the things you pointed out, thanks for showing me where the conversation like this leads to. Good job.

Judging by you reply, definitely didn’t RTFM

Aplogies Sir, my bad I engaged in a nostr debate πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

You have not, read my other reply πŸ«‚πŸ˜‚

Oh yeah, so there is no hard feelings, I am not being 100% serious, so don’t take it personally πŸ˜‚πŸ«‚

how to "De google your phone"

https://youtu.be/nnLSWBBQSEU