Android sucks even more, it’s just horrible in my experience. And add Google Play for to that, the game is over. Plus Android comes with butt load of spyware and telco shit preloaded with no way to remove it. Japanese Android is just a fucking clusterfuck of clutter and annoying spyware
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IOS comed with all kinds of shit you can't remove, and tracks everywhere you go as well. With android you can choose your app store and download third party keyboards.
You didn’t read what I wrote. Read again
I did read it, all I'm saying is apple has been known to track you all over the place and spy on you as well.
Really no escaping it. How is "Japanese Android" different?
Graphene is the way out
#justsaying
Even in Graphene, if you install one app that has a tracker in it Google can track you, most people have several, also every phone reports your location to cell towers as well and chat logs.
See, the point is that Google is a data company making their revenue on data. Apple is not (yet). Motivations are different, so among two evils I trust the fruit company more.
I would also say I trust apple a bit more with privacy, just can't do the proprietary shit. Like to be able to use custom launchers and app stores.
That’s fine by me, less risk surface for the normal non-tech crowd. I wouldn’t trust my family to know bad actor from a good one, hence a wall garden works for me to protect them
That's fair, I like a lot about Apple products and hate a lot too, but this perspective definitely makes sense.
Telco preinstalled garbage. Apple preinstalled shit is fine by me, I chose it. Android comes with 3rd party poorly written shit by underpaid devs in Japan
you can use android without google play. It's more private that way than Apple or base Android.
You install a ROM and bang, no more google bloatware or anything you might not want in your phone
Which device? Exactly
any that has unlocked boot loader but some are better for specific ROMs
graphene OS is pretty popular but i think it only works on Pixels phones
there other, any search into "Private custom Android ROM" there tons of videos
Yeah, like I want to waste my time trying to fuck with the phone os. I want for the shot to work reliably out of the box. If you have plenty of free time or into this, then it’s for you. I need a phone that works, I have other priorities and interests
LineageOS works with oneplus and Samsung and stuff.. grapheme would need a pixel Ofcourse, you can even relock the bootloader on some oneplus devices with lineage
Why would I trust noname OS with anything?
You dont trust, you verify, thats kind of the whole point ? Dont think you can do that with Apple.
When was the last time you went over the source code for Android and saw no issues?
Is that all you've got?
Use the fruit device its fine, just dont be blind sighted by the obvious transparency of an open source OS that can and IS forked off from whatever Google is doing
Read the story about OpenSSL, get some understanding about FOSS and what it is in reality
So what you're saying is closed source is better because open source can have vulnerabilities? Stop lying to yourself for convenience
Fuck off, just RTFM and stop assuming what I mean or think 🤣
You assumed that I wasnt aware of the things you pointed out, thanks for showing me where the conversation like this leads to. Good job.
how to "De google your phone"
I agree! I’ve tried to like Android but most devices I’ve tried ended up sitting in a draw unused until being thrown out or given away.. The UI on Android is horrible and they do come with a bunch of pre-installed crap worse than Apple. I’ve never bought any of the devices capable of running GrapheneOS, maybe this is better, but at this point I don’t want to spend the money to find out so will stick with iOS.
Pixel Pros are very nice
For the first half of the year you got them, maybe 🤣
Can't agree. I was an iPhone user for over 10 years and hardware-wise there is not really a difference
It’s the software and level of polish for the hardware
It's superficial stuff. Humans are creatures of habit but you get used to things. If you choose bling and shiny over privacy and security you have no right to bitch
Graphene OS is better than apple