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I did read it, all I'm saying is apple has been known to track you all over the place and spy on you as well.

Really no escaping it. How is "Japanese Android" different?

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Graphene is the way out

#justsaying

Graphene supports narrow range of hardware, so not a solution

get a Pixel and quit bitching

Not paying Google a penny

you just want to complain 👍

Oh you just want to feed Google with your money 🤣

chrizzz 1mo ago

But you understand there is a very good reason for that

Even in Graphene, if you install one app that has a tracker in it Google can track you, most people have several, also every phone reports your location to cell towers as well and chat logs.

See, the point is that Google is a data company making their revenue on data. Apple is not (yet). Motivations are different, so among two evils I trust the fruit company more.

I would also say I trust apple a bit more with privacy, just can't do the proprietary shit. Like to be able to use custom launchers and app stores.

That’s fine by me, less risk surface for the normal non-tech crowd. I wouldn’t trust my family to know bad actor from a good one, hence a wall garden works for me to protect them

That's fair, I like a lot about Apple products and hate a lot too, but this perspective definitely makes sense.

There you go

I actually have been missing my iPhone recently cause this Pixel has been acting up a lot even though it's brand new almost, never had a phone do this.

There is this factor too, Google software is shit. They underinvest and overpromise

at that point you need the NSA to he querying the towers to find you.

its much better privacy.

Really? Did you perform an audit of the code you installed, and verified that the binaries are exactly reproducible?

Telco preinstalled garbage. Apple preinstalled shit is fine by me, I chose it. Android comes with 3rd party poorly written shit by underpaid devs in Japan

Oh, I didn't know that. That's a different story then.

And it’s uninstallable garbage too