Are they making use of Lightning today?

Do they deny the 100x improvement we are seeing?

Were they people who previously claimed Lightning wouldn't work & pushed for big blocks?

Are they FUDing about Bitcoin & Lightning not being able to scale to the entire world while ignoring that Bitcoin + Lightning has achieved far greater scale & security than any shitcoin project & are still being improved?

Do they acknowledge that Lightning can be used to network sidechains & other scaling tech?

It's hard to say who is who without answers to some of these questions.