The Hama's/PIJ rockets aren't able to be meaningfully aimed, they have no guidance systems.

The IDF missiles, though, most certainly do.

Most of the Western world understands well what Israeli's have suffered. Many fewer understand what Palestinians live under.

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Yes. They live under Hamas rule.

💯 who they voted in too!

They have been driven from their homes, farms and businesses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

Then caged in camps behind razor wire for seventy-five years.

Scott Ritter said it better than I.

https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/why-i-no-longer-stand-with-israel

Fun fact: HAMAS was organised and funded by Israeli intelligence. They were the Islamist mirror image of the Kahanist Israelis who killed Yitzak Rabin.

Right. So they only hope to hit Isreal hospitals. But end up hitting their own.

this whole thread is baseless

Yes. And in bad faith.

"The selective outrage is always the tell."

This comment is exactly the problem.

No, this whole thread is a problem. you dont even have a proper point to prove your argument, you dont have any evidence about the life of Falestinian and yet all the Fitnah / misinformation is spread. its funny because you call yourself first world and educated.

I agree with you.

I am learning.

The other two try very hard not to.

these are the same people who once called nelson mandela terrorist. a world in their view is narrow.

it is scary that these people are bestowed power the vote for the most powerful president in the world.

Imagine thinking I was an American. 🤣

Imagine thinking you were "people" :-D

Well not sure who you refered to then

they dont respect nor recognised UN resolutions, the very same organisation they wanted veto power in the security council.

so that tells you very much of their view of "world peace"

Clown 🤡

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No ities without clowns

Nelson Mandela 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Bruh go fuck your cousins harder.

They are conscious hypocrites, Disturbia, not merely narrow-minded unconscious hypocrites.

Unlike the mob at Golgotha, they know exactly what they do.

When the world turns, and they need justice, they will expect you and me to sympathise with them.

they dont know laws. they dont even understand basic history. the read some info on reddit and that is how they conclude what is happening (pretty much tell you how they vote actually). if they have taken their time to actually read UN resolutions, especially those of the 1968 which demarcates the modern israel-palestine border they would have realised that israel has consistently invade palestine land till today.

they would also have realised that jerusalem is a shared capital by the two nation, and a palestinian was killed by israel soldier, in jerusalem, on the muslim day rotation, while praying just before this war.

yeah, they are totallt uninformed population.

Very thoughtful and considered post, Disturbia.

Haters probably don't even know that the Falastin/Falasteen people are referenced in the Mishna, the oldest parts of the Torah.

Total hypocrite.

And when did I refute any of this? Exactly.

when ukrainian goes in arms becauss russia invade their land they are called freedom fighter.

when palestinian whose land was invaded since 1968 (as per UN resolution and before, frankly) and was literally killed while praying does the same, they are terrorist.

amazing.

Lets pretend like Palestinian gov isnt a terrorist organization some more?

Dont compare two wars. Too different. Also while Russia is wrong, Ukraine has a Nazi problem that needs to be solved.

Gaza has a Hamas problem that is being solved.

define terrorist? where do you draw the line between that and a freedom fighter?

Freedom fighters dont terrorize.

Hamas is designated as a terrorist group as well.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/terrorism

Britannica has an excellent definition of terrorism.

Hamas, the Likud regime in Israel, the Biden administration and its lackeys, Zelensky (but I repeat myself).

All are terrorists! Some are a greater threat than others, however. And some may or may not also be freedom fighters.

i am going to end our discussion here. at the end, there are life suffering on both side (Falestine & !srael). no one deserves to die.

period.

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Thank you for your efforts, Disturbia! Only on #nostr could we do this without being banned.

Grateful we can have these discussions here. Thank you both eh. 🤙🫶

sorry for opening an old thread but do see this video

https://youtu.be/mX6TE1Inx3E?si=hKxQMkq_LI1NTxae

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This is what happens when you fuck your cousins.

You ask dumb questions, bc you come out the womb retarded (scientifically denominated).

i am married to someone ethnically different to me. sorry you are deep in the matric and cant see genocide happening right in front of you

Killing hamas is not genocide fool!

What? Lmao

Hamas scum

Your fresh daily dose of Hamas! drink the narrative if you want to!

"This little girl is beautiful Meera who was injured by missile fragments after an air strike wounding and burning her face and left eye. 30.10.23

الطفلة ميرا أصيبت بجروح و حروق بالوجه في قصف للاحتلال على منزلهم في غزة"

https://video.nostr.build/4901eb14ba123acbdd6b5b941ca75bdcfea623294d7073bd44de817782cd113a.mp4

You have cheeto dust on your fingers.

This is so sad. Hamas bad.

You think these kids are targeted? You are in denial. Wow

Exactly, and let's talk about how the Palestinians kill their own shall we?

Not even hamas, the people will kill their own if they're gay.

Is that Israel's fault too? 🤡🤡🤡

What is baffling is the numbers of rainbow flag waving people in my country expressing support for a group that would set them on fire and laugh as they burned to death just for being gay.

Hamas loving shit head

sorry your mind is deeply clouded and cant see genocide happening.

Oddly, I agree with MC4 on every point but one.

PA leadership is terrorist and crooked (like Likud but weaker).

Russia is wrong, but Ukraine's Nazis are more wrong - I've know this since the late 2000s when a Jewish friend of mine used to attend Voleyn.

But Hamas is not being solved, it is being fed heat, fuel and oxygen. And they are returning the favour to Likud and Blue & White.

Israel/Palestine is not a war between nations. It is two interlocking multi-generational hostage dramas, and in both cases the masterminds and profiteers are located outside the region.

And Disturbia, you are still correct on every point, its just we have some rare points of agreement. Its to be expected there'd be some, we are all self-selected by being on #nostr.

I appreciate this reply.

Dude. Just call out terrorists. Easy

Always, MC4.

Some of those called out don't handle it well.

Scott Ritter has been very brave in calling out terrorists and war criminals too.

https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/why-i-no-longer-stand-with-israel

"The selective outrage is always the tell."

No it certainly is not. It is BASED.

But the intention? What are Hamas intentions?

Maybe you’ve already forgotten the bestiality that occurred 2 weeks ago? Torturing kids by taking out their eyes, chopping off limbs infront of the parents? Opening up the belly of a pregnant woman while she’s still alive, taking out the baby…

But yea, Israel is JUST AS BAD!!!🤡🤡🤡

I do wish propagandists would create NEW fake atrocity stories. All the ones you cited are plagiarised from World War One. And then every war since...

How about "Palestinians ate an endangered baby Unicorn!". Something original for once.

When is Israel bombing the next hospital?

. https://www.commondreams.org/news/al-quds-hospital-threatened

When is Isreal bombing the next hospital you ask? Hopfully the minute Hamas terrorist start firing rockets from it.