yeah this could be hidden a lot more. I don’t touch my relays much anymore.

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There's potential for that to change, say if there were specialist interest relays ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ but yeah atm sort of should be background maybe

IMHO, the relays listed in NIP-05 should be taken more seriously. Also https://nak.nostr.com/ that Fiatjaf pointed out the other day solves a lot of the relay issues, but not all of them.

NIP-65 is better defined. NIP-05 is great fallback though.

private relays shouldn't be forgotten. I think they will become much more common in fact. So, relay management should never be something clients pick for you or take from your control (looking at you Primal).

If clients slowly just steer towards hiding it from users, they'll just end up coalescing around centralization - with a finite list of 'chosen for you' relays.