You’re not the prize. The children are. You’re the only way to get to having them. Women have the future of the specie in their hands (excluding when forced to procreate). In all honesty, they seem to be doing bit of a shitty job at it. Arrogance is rewarded, when value should. What is value? It depends on cultural context. There is no one fits all on the planet.

Wanna have kids guys? Understand the value a potential mother seeks.

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I'm sorry, but if you just see women as talking wombs, why don't you just wait for factory-bred babies and skip the date?

or just adopt and raise them with your values.

What if he adopts a girl? 😬😱

The whole point here is if he can’t afford a few dinners, there’s no way he can afford to pass the bar for adoption, let alone afford the expense of a child. He’ll be complaining about all the kids demands to “eat” and “get toys”

💯

I start to suspect you’re a dude.

I start to suspect that your commentary isn't worth reading, so I shall no longer read it.

Thank you for confirming my suspicions about you and your way of thinking. Have fun

Can you imagine his reaction, if he married a Talking Womb and then she was infertile?

His whole effort wasted. 🤷‍♀️

Married? 🤣 people still marry to have kids and family?

Q.E.D.

Why can you not accept that a man is willing to provide without marrying?

I’m sorry, but if you just see a man as a provider for the center of the universe (you) why don’t you just go find a job? The children are the prize. I wonder why wealthy men seem to cycle through multiple wives and just keep procreating? Wonder why some cultures accept polygamy as long as the men can provide equally to all wives? Nobody likes evolutionary psychology, and evolutionary psychology does not care.

If a man is complaining about paying for dinner, how can they afford the prize of a child? You wonder why wealthy men cycle through multiple wives, it’s because they can afford to do so.

Exactly. Not saying a man should not provide. Just saying the wife is not the prize, the children are. Growing human children takes a whole of time, that’s a whole lot of supporting to be done.

This.

How someone could think this is proof of the opposite, is beyond me.

How can people continuously put meaning in my words that simply was not there is beyond me? Because they are desperately attached to a point of view, and anything that threatens it must be dismantled, with or without logic.

Because apparently the world has gone crazy and lonely men think some intrinsic worth they have as men is defined as something other than their ability to provide for a family, and they can do that with something other than money.

Magic I suppose?

What Bitcoin has done is create a subclass of poor men who suddenly won the equivalent of the lottery. But many still think like poor men, scrounging and whining about minor costs and lacking in the most basic displays of generosity.

Money can't buy class.

Chivalry isn’t dead, but it is surely hard to find.