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Chiefmonkey

The EU are voting on Chat Control this Wednesday 19th June

If passed it will be the most devastating blow to privacy not just to Europeans but people around the world

All service providers will be forced to scan ALL content of their users

Get involved

Say No to Chat Control

https://blog.cryptpad.org/2022/05/19/against-chatcontrol/

Janneke 1y ago

I recommend everyone to switch to the messenger Threema.

They have their servers and headquarter in Switzerland and are therefore NOT subject to this EU law!

Threema will have nothing to do with that chat control!

If you want, you can buy Threema from me!

Just zap me ⚡7999 sats ⚡

for a licence of the secure Messenger #Threema only for Android Smartphones

Threema is the messenger with rigorous data protection and rock-solid security. The chat app was developed with “Privacy by Design” as the guiding principle.

Chat Anonymously: No Phone Number Required

No storage of metadata or IP addresses

No Collection of User Data at all & No Ads

Guaranteed Privacy: Strong Encryption

Always End-to-End Encrypted: Voice, Video, and Group Calls

Open Source with regular Security Audits

Most selling Secure Messenger App !

⚡ Price: just 7999 sats ⚡ + no data from you will go to Threema

Regular Price 6.99 $ in the Appstores

You can download the App on their Website and also use it with the google-free Version called #ThreemaLibre from F-Droid - the license is only for Android Smartphones (iOS will come soon, but only in Europe)

Questions? Just ask me.... Janneke

For more Information, please visit their Website:

https://threema.ch/en

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Discussion

Chiefmonkey 1y ago

I recommend nobody touches centralised services for money or privacy

FOSS P2P ONLY

Matrix

Signal

SimpleX

And soon Nostr

Janneke 1y ago

All these 4 leak your MetaData !!!

Check this:

SecureMessagingApps.com

Rate:

🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0

Results (and where the money comes from)

1. Threema = 86 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time)

2. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 80

3. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77

4. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68

5. SimpleX Chat *= 67

6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61

7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56

8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37

9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32

10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28

11. Telegram (Putin) = 27

12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26

13. Microsoft Skype =10

* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect.

OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment

Elephant in the root 1y ago

Not being Open Source disqualifies Threema immediately. No more digging needed.

Janneke 1y ago

https://threema.ch/en/open-source

Elephant in the root 1y ago

Oh, looks like I missed an announcement. Nice!

Janneke 1y ago

Always remember:

"Metadata absolutely tells you everything about somebodyís life. If you have enough metadata, you donít really need content."

NSA General Counsel

Stewart Baker

Check:

"We kill people based on metadata"

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/05/10/we-kill-people-based-metadata/

dfa94a58... 1y ago

The problem with open source, while being better than closed source is that there can be discontinuities on the back end that leak. So, for example, the messages my be end to end encrypted and secure when seen from the open sourced code, but asynchronously the server hosts may possess decryption keys.

dfa94a58... 1y ago

Open source is necessary but insufficient. There must also be no central servers. Only self hosted servers by the participants or at least the abity to do so.

dfa94a58... 1y ago

Don't trust the Swiss. Protonmail is also open source and they have more han once turned over mail to EU prosecutors. They've just hosted a sham "peace meeting" for Ukraine without inviting Russia lol ! The Swiss are not to be trusted.

Janneke 1y ago

Both has nothing to do with Threema!

Proton stores Emails

Threema stores nothing !

https://threema.ch/en/transparencyreport

dfa94a58... 1y ago

Threema has has servers ?

Janneke 1y ago

Reading educates !

dfa94a58... 1y ago

My question was actually rhetorical

https://threema.ch/en/faq/server_location

What if a company called twoma offloads the data from threema servers as an offline process, this wont show uo in threemas open source code and then threema does indeed store nothing. Point is I don't trust them

Janneke 1y ago

That´s your problem...

Read about the killing of Jan Kuciak 2018 in Slowakia and you will have the proof that Threema stores nothing!

trieska 1y ago

just red this article, and their conclusion is clear

https://threema.ch/en/blog/posts/stop-chat-control

Janneke 1y ago

"What is crystal clear, however, is that there will never be a Threema version that’s spying on its users in any way, shape, or form.

The reason Threema was created is to provide a highly secure, completely private, and anonymous means of communication."