The EU are voting on Chat Control this Wednesday 19th June
If passed it will be the most devastating blow to privacy not just to Europeans but people around the world
All service providers will be forced to scan ALL content of their users
Get involved
Say No to Chat Control
If things like things are going up for a vote, the people already lost.
Democracy hasn’t existed for decades… you have as much chance of voting on topics like this as you do with war
Will this mean that children's phones are scanned too? How is that protecting children?
Yes… the scanning is done on the servers
It doesn’t protect children… this kind of i on overreach has been abused in the past
The technology is also unreliable and there are a lot of false negatives
best option to try to migrate important contacts from whatsapp to a better option? Anything NOSTR based? Maybe Signal, if they continue with their ideas and will not comply?
#asknostr
💯 agree… Signal is good but it can also be banned from app stores
PWA’s are essential… and preferably nostr but there’s a lot more work needed to make that happen
I recommend everyone to switch to the messenger Threema.
They have their servers and headquarter in Switzerland and are therefore NOT subject to this EU law!
Threema will have nothing to do with that chat control!
If you want, you can buy Threema from me!
Just zap me ⚡7999 sats ⚡
for a licence of the secure Messenger #Threema only for Android Smartphones
Threema is the messenger with rigorous data protection and rock-solid security. The chat app was developed with “Privacy by Design” as the guiding principle.
Chat Anonymously: No Phone Number Required
No storage of metadata or IP addresses
No Collection of User Data at all & No Ads
Guaranteed Privacy: Strong Encryption
Always End-to-End Encrypted: Voice, Video, and Group Calls
Open Source with regular Security Audits
Most selling Secure Messenger App !
⚡ Price: just 7999 sats ⚡ + no data from you will go to Threema
Regular Price 6.99 $ in the Appstores
You can download the App on their Website and also use it with the google-free Version called #ThreemaLibre from F-Droid - the license is only for Android Smartphones (iOS will come soon, but only in Europe)
Questions? Just ask me.... Janneke
For more Information, please visit their Website:
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I recommend nobody touches centralised services for money or privacy
FOSS P2P ONLY
Matrix
Signal
SimpleX
And soon Nostr
All these 4 leak your MetaData !!!
Check this:
SecureMessagingApps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 86 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time)
2. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 80
3. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
4. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
5. SimpleX Chat *= 67
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect.
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
Not being Open Source disqualifies Threema immediately. No more digging needed.
Oh, looks like I missed an announcement. Nice!
Always remember:
"Metadata absolutely tells you everything about somebodyís life. If you have enough metadata, you donít really need content."
NSA General Counsel
Stewart Baker
Check:
"We kill people based on metadata"
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/05/10/we-kill-people-based-metadata/
The problem with open source, while being better than closed source is that there can be discontinuities on the back end that leak. So, for example, the messages my be end to end encrypted and secure when seen from the open sourced code, but asynchronously the server hosts may possess decryption keys.
Don't trust the Swiss. Protonmail is also open source and they have more han once turned over mail to EU prosecutors. They've just hosted a sham "peace meeting" for Ukraine without inviting Russia lol ! The Swiss are not to be trusted.
Both has nothing to do with Threema!
Proton stores Emails
Threema stores nothing !
Threema has has servers ?
Reading educates !
My question was actually rhetorical
https://threema.ch/en/faq/server_location
What if a company called twoma offloads the data from threema servers as an offline process, this wont show uo in threemas open source code and then threema does indeed store nothing. Point is I don't trust them
That´s your problem...
Read about the killing of Jan Kuciak 2018 in Slowakia and you will have the proof that Threema stores nothing!
just red this article, and their conclusion is clear
"What is crystal clear, however, is that there will never be a Threema version that’s spying on its users in any way, shape, or form.
The reason Threema was created is to provide a highly secure, completely private, and anonymous means of communication."
Let them do it, I'll just switch to whichever FOSS app I find usable.
During Covid the entire western world adapted to working online within months
If chat control becomes a thing, I can see P2P and freedom tech exploding
It could backfire on the state and ironically be the catalyst for radical change
L'Union européenne vote ce mercredi 19 juin pour le contrôle des conversations.
S'il cela est adopté, ca portera un coup terrible à notre vie privée et libertés, non seulement pour les Européens, mais aussi pour les citoyens du monde entier.
Tous les fournisseurs d'accès seront contraints de scanner TOUS les contenus de leurs utilisateurs.
Partagez le message autour de vous
Dites non au contrôle des conversations
Then people will have to actually make time for each other, not give a thumbs up to show appreciation and really talk, not just type. Who knows, we might actually get better.
so bad but nobody cares in Germany, so stupid 😳
Nobody cares. the idiots have nothing to hide. the rest have had synapse on their own root for a long time without federation or other solutions. whoever uses whatsapp or telegram is to blame.
Then unfortunately they’ll pay with their freedom
Luckily for you, you do not need everyone to practice privacy… just the people you want to build a future with
Then unfortunately they’ll pay with their freedom
Luckily for you, you do not need everyone to practice privacy… just the people you want to build a future with 👍
EU & uncle $am's lie$ doesn't c0ntrol this f*cking planet., only c0ntrol$ the $heeple with a A.eye pr0vidence.
There is no political solution.
Without private property rights, we don't have any rights. We only have privileges. All privileges can be removed.
There is no reason for a slave to vote. Slaves don't have any political or legal standing.
The way out is violent revolution.
We must forcibly dismantle the European Union.
The EU is based on Jewish Marxism. Marxism is parasitism on grand scale.
Physical elimination of every single European Union operator and all their supporters is correct.
Marxism is total in scope, so it must be annihilated in its entirety.
Don't vote, revolt.
Disengage the psychopathic parasites.
Non violent evolution... doesn't have to be violent
I agree there is no political solution... to be more accurate, the solution will not come from politics... we will provide solutions that become overwhelmingly popular and politicians will support them because they will have no choice
It can be achieved through contract law and building a society that makes the old one redundant
I believe the tools the state initially uses for violence against the people will eventually serve the people once more to protect them against the state
I also agree there is an element of psychopathic parasites... fuck the fucking fuckers
I'm bullish on peaceful solutions that obsolete the elite
There is no political solution.
Without private property rights, we don't have any rights. We only have privileges. All privileges can be removed.
There is no reason for a slave to vote. Slaves don't have any political or legal standing.
The way out is violent revolution.
We must forcibly dismantle the European Union.
The EU is based on Jewish Marxism. Marxism is parasitism on grand scale.
Physical elimination of every single European Union operator and all their supporters is correct.
Marxism is total in scope, so it must be annihilated in its entirety.
Don't vote, revolt.
Disengage the psychopathic parasites.
There is no political solution.
Without private property rights, we don't have any rights. We only have privileges. All privileges can be removed.
There is no reason for a slave to vote. Slaves don't have any political or legal standing.
The way out is violent revolution.
We must forcibly dismantle the European Union.
The EU is based on Jewish Marxism. Marxism is parasitism on grand scale.
Physical elimination of every single European Union operator and all their supporters is correct.
Marxism is total in scope, so it must be annihilated in its entirety.
Don't vote, revolt.
Disengage the psychopathic parasites.
Does that also include browser based we interfaces for Telegram or WhatsApp or Discord or Slack…?
Service providers... so severs... from what I've read it is very open for interpretation so this is part of the reason it's so dangerous... ridiculous
This is why p2p is essential and will always be
