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An excerpt from "The Power of Myth":

CAMPBELL: Certainly Star Wars has a valid mythological perspective. It shows the state as a machine and asks, "Is the machine going to crush humanity or serve humanity? Humanity comes not from the machine but from the heart. What I see in Star Wars is the same problem that Faust gives us: Mephistopheles, the machine man, can provide us with all the means, and is thus likely to determine the aims of life as well. But of course the characteristic of Faust, which makes him eligible to be saved, is that he seeks aims that are not those of the machine.

Now, when Luke Skywalker unmasks his father, he is taking off the machine role that the father has played. The father was the uniform. That is power, the state role.

...Darth Vader has not developed his own humanity. He's a robot. He's a bureaucrat, living not in terms of himself but in terms of an imposed system. This is the threat to our lives that we all face today. Is the system going to flatten you out and deny you your humanity, or are you going to be able to make use of the system to the attainment of human purposes? How do you relate to the system so that you are not compulsively serving it? It doesn't help to try to change it to accord with your system of thought. The momentum of history behind it is too great for anything really significant to evolve from that kind of action. The thing to do is learn to live in your period of history as a human being. That's something else, and it can be done.

MOYERS: By doing what?

CAMPBELL: By holding to your own ideals for yourself and, like Luke Skywalker, rejecting the system's impersonal claims upon you.

— Joseph Campbell, The Power of Myth with Bill Moyers

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Is they a commentary on Dune by Fsnk Herbert? I found so much in those books, especially the first 2. The others have elements in them but are harder to find.

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Found this on Reddit:

Joesph Campbell, noted mythologist and author of "The Hero with a Thousand Faces", expressed his thoughts on "Star Wars" in an interview. Since "Star Wars" was inspired by "Dune", does anyone know what Campbell thought about "Dune"?

UPDATE: After reaching out to the Joseph Campbell Foundation, I received (to my delight) a very nice response, shown below.

"Regarding your question about Joseph Campbell's thoughts on Dune, to the best of our knowledge Campbell never read any of that series. Science fiction was not a genre that he followed. In fact, he only learned that Star Wars existed when George Lucas publicly acknowledged how Campbell's work had influenced the film (Lucas invited him to Skywalker Ranch to view the first three films in the trilogy – Episodes IV, V, and VI).

I know that's not what you were hoping to hear. Thank you though for your question, and your passion for Joseph Campbell's work."

Thank you for looking and for sharing 🙏

My pleasure. It was a good question. I wanted to make sure I hadn't missed anything before replying.

I’ll have to look up Joseph & his writings.

What would he take be, I wonder, on Zen and the art of Motorcycle maintenance by Persig. That’s an interesting read, a few stories woven into one.