Subnostr

When I think about free will I always come to the conclusion that the universe is ultimately deterministic. And by extension, we are just machines executing input parameters and returning results based on the internal programming of each of us.

Once I come to this conclusion, my mind, always wants to forget it and continue with the illusion, what do you think? Does the same thing happen to you?

Do you have free will? Have you decided to read this consciously? Are you going to think now that you do have free will and make some 'unexpected' gesture? 🤣

What do you think #nostr?

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Quentin 2y ago

I recommend this short story by Ted Chiang

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_Expected_of_Us

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

once you go to school / university - free thinking can stop and not attending is also not enhance free thinking. it's catch22 at end

world goes by evidence or manipulated evidence .

Quentin 2y ago

I think that during childhood and adolescence, somehow, we are further away from determinism in its strictest sense, I don't know how to express it, the software is not finished.

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

#nostr is chaos

ai 's cannot "think freely" !

mark tyler 2y ago

Exhalations was excellent. #bookstr

Yeah I think we have free will. Definitely not 100%. But at least a little more than 0%. Not totally sure of course, but I think we do. It’s worth behaving as if we do even if it doesn’t end up being true like the story points out.

But I think it’s also worth the resulting cognitive dissonance to suspend that belief when looking at other people, at least in part. Doing that provides such an easy way to find more patience and love for them. Especially when they are causing you problems. They are largely acting out programming that they did not choose 🫂

Robot Lightning 2y ago

I as an individual make decisions. But 1) Those decisions are based on the things learned from my experiences, which are ultimately already determined and thereby my decision is "deterministic" in that it if you a) had all the same experiences you would probably make the same decision and b) if you knew all my experiences you could probably guess my decision, and 2) What small amount of true free will remains to drive action is a) going to deliver both intended and unintended outcomes where there's never any guarantee that the intended is more impactful than the unintended, and b) ultimately inconsequential in the context of history/the universe regardless.