I believe this is not that far off. Would be a huge upgrade. nostr:note1q4gerjtln6agtlfmsrsr3stz7e84h3l9fef97qc8d02jjrwvqkqsj3004l
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I'd be down. DMs on Nostr are such an afterthought as it stands now. A better implementation that's also more powerful would be a huge upgrade.
After this we will have a complete communication channel public and private. This is the last piece of puzzle.
Wouldn’t it be awesome if Nostr relays integrated SimpleX relay functionality as well for more private DMs?
That way we wouldn’t have to rely on SimpleX’s relays, but would instead rely on the same relays we use to broadcast/receive notes.
genuine question: what's the difference with the level of privacy and the relay source? especially if you don't run your own relay in the first place?
Not sure what specifically you’re asking.
The reason why it would be nice to use other relays is that you wouldn’t rely on SimpleX servers to be up, they could shut down as a project and we could still have failover/redundancy.
From a privacy perspective, SimpleX is far superior to Nostr DMs due to its architecture. A relay runner can’t even tell how many users are using it, since there aren’t usernames.
i understand the first part.
what specifically is "far superior" due to its architecture mean? what's the liability for the relay runner in that scenario?
Liability is minimal, since:
1. Relays can’t see the messages or even determine who is using the server
2. A local chat database is stored on your device, so if a relay you use goes down, you can easily use another and retain all messages.
The architecture is summarized in the link I sent you.
The tl;dr is that it’s more private because users don’t have unique identifiers, and SimpleX deliver messages uses a modern, advanced private tech called Pairwise Pseudononymous Identifiers.
https://csrc.nist.gov/glossary/term/Pairwise_Pseudonymous_Identifier
You could potentially manage content like this between multiple locations , that’s faster, more secure , and less taxing on everything and everyone. #nosarkstr
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That’d be awesome 👏
This would be amazing. I started using Simplex in my BTCpayServer because it's better for metadata and it's easy to create chat rooms. Nostr integration would be much better than this janky thing I use.

amazing idea
SimpleX can actually run on a Linux CLI, messages are already in json.....it's ripe for the picking!
This could be the answer to both Private DMs and closed discussion groups.
Seems to be a great idea, and it opens the nostr community up to the idea of using multiple protocols in the same client. Nostr is the handshake and public message board, simplex for DMs and group chats...and I'm here to plug keet for video calls again.
This would be so amazing for nostr.💜
just got it