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this is the way

i agree with the sentiment, and it's better than nothing πŸ’œ

...but you couldn't catch me advocating for the centralized service that requires a phone number πŸ˜…

Another perfect is the enemy of good guy.

I'm not planning a revolution on it. I need something that just works with a WAF and grandma proof scores of 1.0 so that pics and video calls with my kids in them stop happening on Facebook messenger.

Good enough for Snowden and planning surprise bombing runs on foreign countries, but I'm sure it isn't secure enough for your needs so carry on.

It doesn't anymore, does it?πŸ€”

Upgrade. Use Element

A half a dozen extra steps to set up accounts for the grandmas compared to signal with less reliable message notifications which will cause them to fall back to other messengers.

The grandma went from letters, to landline, to email, to messaging apps. I'm sure she can be taught a couple more steps. Anyways, if not now, evolution will eventually take you (and her, if she is still alive when the network effect picks up) there

Matrix apps drop notifications and signal doesn't. If it doesn't work flawlessly they will use something unencrypted instead.

Matrix default server wants to comply with UK Safety Laws.

And it's awful when you use (god forbid) a macbook and a pixel. Husband set it up for me twice, I broke it down twice - security warnings block incoming messages, it's not really usable. At least year ago it wasn't.

Signal is how I talk to normies.

I got the whole family on Signal. All my friends I talk to in normi land use Signal. It easy and it works.