It took us 2 years to develop, test, audit and verify nip44. How long did you want it to take to not be rushed? We needed to get out of nip04 fast. Everybody was complaining about how terrible it was and it was affecting Nostr's image everywhere, but especially in the cryptography community, which knew very well how idiotic the scheme was.

Since nip44, no one has dared to say Nostr devs have no idea what they are doing in encryption.

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2 years? It only took a few months at most, and the specification was likely outlined within an hour.

The only thing that has taken 2 years is convincing devs that the absurd gift wrap standard (independent of NIP-44) is a good idea, which continues to be proof that Nostr devs truly have no idea what they are doing.

By trying to get a solution to obscure complaints fast the only thing we have done is left much more realistic problems like encryption intent unsolved.

Nostr’s image was not significantly impacted by NIP-04 except research papers that like to dunk on unrealistic scenarios, and NIP-44 *adoption* (due to it mostly being a low practical benefit change) is still nowhere near completion, partly because the only scheme using it also happens to be shit.

I see you don't even know we changed cryptographic curves (a fundamental step) twice 7 months after the first idea and had to retest everything.

I am not even including giftwrapping and the NIP-17 scheme. 2 years was just NIP44.

do you know the difference between an elliptic curve and a symmetric cipher

Lol

I am pretty sure you either mixed that up or the MLS NIP.

I am going to stop this discussion because you clearly have a grudge and your ego is overwritting any rational discussion on this. There is no point. You just want to create a fuzz about it even though you agree NIP44 is significantly better than nip04.

Or you are not getting it, considering that you said it took 2 years to do NIP-44 when it did not, and that changes to the core public key scheme of Nostr was required twice

How can you claim to know how long things too if you werent even there? I was. Why would you even make such claims? I don't get it. Your ego must really be hurt by something. This is not normal.

You know, the development process is open for everyone to seed there is no closed committee for this. Even including “empty” time spent on waiting for merges, and a very liberal definition of the start and end time, 2 years is nowhere close.

All you are doing is attacks on me and absolutely nothing of substance about reality, which is pretty disappointing to see.

Not the 1st time your personal views have prevented you from seeing the reality 🤷