Yes, that is the media's take. I think youll find it to be wrong in time, like most of their takes. But maybe not, and if youre right that Garcia is just a good guy legal resident that was wrongfully deported, then I was wrong. When you have millions of people to deport, youre bound to get something wrong (although Im not convinced this one was wrong yet).
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You will also find that the state tends to be wrong a lot. In fact, I would almost always side against the state because it is so hilariously wrong all the time. That's why courts exist. Because if not, aganst run wild and put everyone they don't like out.
Thats true, so we have no good sources of information, yet almost everyone is certain about their facts. Regardless, the US still has a problem of too many illegal immigrants and not enough courts. I dont expect them to just take that on the chin.
Then let's just deport everyone. All citizens and aliens alike since we are not checking which one is which anyway..
Vitor thats just an emotional response. I understand where youre coming from, but it does not address the problem.
Im finding it difficult to understand why so many people think its not a huge problem to have millions of people illegally enter a country. I would hope people could at least acknowledge that, and talk about legitimate pathways to solving that problem.
Nobody is debating the problem of millions of people illegally here. All we are saying is that we CANNOT let government run free with deportations into slave labor. Otherwise, they will come for you and I in the same way, lying their way to get political points with their bosses.
I agree we should not let the government "run free with deportations to slave labor", obviously. I assume you would agree that path is not the typical deportation path.
And yes there are many people in the US that want to give those people status, so it is a debate.
The government has unlimited funds to scale up criminal investigations and prosecutions regardless if people are alien or not. They just need to do that and make their case.
This is not hard. It's just the bare minimum they must do. If they cannot find evidence of wrong doing, then leave people alone.
Yes. This is so obvious evidence that “the gubment” is a criminal enterprise that no sovereign individual can either trust, or benefit from. This is not news, it is just much more brazen in this than past administrations.
And how long would that take? Long enough for another election? Maybe it never happens then? These would be the concerns of the opposing side. The country voted for the guy that said he would send people home, and pretty overwhelmingly. Think El Salvador. Those people are pretty happy with Bukele, and he had to go around normal processes. I am sure noone wants to go back to gangs overrunning the country. Just something to consider.
We could go all day, but we are going in circles. Ill end it here for me anyway. So long as we have countries, taxes, social security, welfare, etc, I dont think its Ok to enter countries illegally. I do think you should be sent home for that. I dont think a country should have to take it on the chin if so many people illegally enter that its impossible to remove them.
Again, the government can scale it up as much as it wants. It's on them to move fast or not. They can decide to just deport people in the usual way by sending them to be free in another country, and that can be fast and easy, or decide to put them in jail. If they go for jail, they need to go through the courts.
Yes, they voted for Trump, but nobody voted to change the laws of the country. If they want to make that proposition, they can go through Congress as usual and let's see what people will vote for. Right now, EVERYONE has the right to due process. EVERYONE.
It's not the media's take, it's federal courts and supreme court decisions, and it's Trump' words.
Due process and judicial review is there to limit things going wrong.
Either the rule of law matters or it doesn't. If it does, the government has to follow the laws and court orders. If it doesn't, the government get to do what it wants.
Of course that's the media's take.
So then you must be against what Bukele has done in El Salvador, right? He had to suspend certain rights to clean up his streets. His whole country loves him for it, but if they had it your way, Salvadorans would still be living in a nightmare.
Trump has always had a fascination for dictators: Kim Jong Un, Vladimir Putin, and Viktor Orban. His latest bromance is with Nayib Bukele, the "world's coolest dictator," as he likes to call himself.
Trump said he would be a dictator on Day 1. And he is delivering.
Bukele is helping him by offering to jail the people he doesn't want, including US citizens. For a fee of course.
You think Trump having the power to disappear people to El Salvador is a good thing.
There are many gangs operating in the US and criminals with no gang affiliation.
So let's "suspend certain rights" and "clean up the streets."
Let's disregard the Constitution and the laws, remove judges, intimidate political adversaries, crack down on journalists and activities, bypass due process, and ignore term limits.
What can go wrong?
I don't share you dictatorial tendencies. It never ends well for the people.