It’s in audio for those who would like to listen on the go…

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7sr6jDjJxZgWsRGJnpYYIN?si=X1-DysjBR8KPhlgORyY3nA nostr:note1pa6mrv3tvhm828hn2qsdppn7w0lhduk9hawjpysqjmpewyjmldtqxtqcwl