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I read that the human skull also shrunk after

Domestication of humans

I believe it was during weather changes that made food scarcer. The animals we hunted went extinct so humans had to adapt. Somehow we were smart enough to domesticate cows and have this great food source. The history could be total nonsense though 🤷‍♂️

Yes and that thing inside the skull also shrank too 😂 a lot. Some estimates as much as 10% by volume.

Hard to believe we were smarter millions of years ago

Technology makes life easier which might be making us dumber. Imagine all the skills you would need to survive with no technology. Unlike animals who have everything they need built-in: weapons, clothing, social structure, skills

If the science is accurate modern humans only existed for a few tens of millennia

In "Sapiens" Harari draws the line at 130,000 years ago.

Yes because agriculture usually means a grain based diet.

Luckily domestication of animals let's us get some of that hunter-gatherer diet back.

More reason to drop bread and rice from the diet

Dump all plants they’re shit for human health. All the sugar addicted dorks insist fruit is somehow beneficial but vegetables are bad.

Fruit and vegetable are both full of plant defense compounds, natural and synthetic pesticides, oxalates and lectins. Minimal bioavailable nutrients and an incomplete nutrient profile.

Modern fruit is one step down from candy. It’s trash. Anyone who says it’s a health food has a lot of work to do.

I like using fruit to replenish glycogen. I don’t think top performing athletes can perform optimally without fruit or some glucose source.

https://youtu.be/qRXCLXZ-9wU?

Fully incorrect. Exogenous carbohydrates are only necessary to people who aren’t properly fat adapted.

It’s hard for me to really trust carnivores that don’t eat organs.

How long does it take to become fat adapted?

You don’t need organ meat on carnivore. Ruminant muscle meat/fat has absolutely everything needed in the correct proportions. But that’s really not relevant to this discussion.

It varies on time to get fat adapted. Just watch the talk it proves with certainty that exogenous carbohydrates are completely unnecessary if you’re eating properly and adapted to doing so.

Idk it’s hard for me to believe that muscle meat is enough. Maybe you don’t need it every day but there are some nutrients I don’t believe you can get in muscle meat. Even if it’s there, I don’t think it’s enough.

I’ll give the video a listen

Brother, it’s been proven conclusively. Hundreds of thousands of people have done the experiment including myself. Saifadean talks about it often.

I’ve eaten 2-3 lbs of beef or lamb only for years. Very minimal organ meat like a pound a year or less per year.

Gained muscle and strength, nails got stronger and lost ridging, I heal faster, get tan much easier, have endless energy, can fast and lift, fast and backpack or work construction all day in the heat. My body makes all the glycogen I need and I never have a drop in energy because I run out like I used to when I was metabolically reliant on exogenous carbohydrates.

It is a different existence and I am proof that it works flawlessly. I wouldn’t claim it if I hadn’t done it and experienced it myself.

I first learned about the carnivore diet from Saifedean and I remember him emphasizing that you need to eat organ meats. It was the podcast he did with Dr. Cate Shannahan I can never forget it. It was what got me to try the carnivore diet in the first place but I reacted poorly to it. I felt worse after a month of pure carnivore, I was very lethargic. Had to take a nap midday.

Saifadean has said many times all he eats is ribeyes (or McDonald’s beef patties if he travels). Organ meat doesn’t have some special power or energy lol it’s just more nutrient dense. It’s too nutrient dense to eat regularly. Muscle meat and fat has all the same nutrients as organ meat just in different (and optimal) proportions - it can and does nourish any human perfectly.

The effective utilization of fat as an energy source isn’t something that happens quickly or simply. That was your issue. It takes longer than a month, much longer in many cases. Your body has to “learn” how to use fat as energy after having a lifetime of cheap exogenous glucose to use as fuel. It’s a huge metabolic shift. Your endocrine system has to adapt as well and your hormonal production needs to be completely reworked from the insulin-soaked baseline. It won’t happen in days, it’s a months long process. Potentially up to 2 years according to Dr Rob Cywes depending on the person.

Another major issue for people on carnivore is lack of sodium. Your sodium intake needs to be likely 10x’d by weight. 4-5 grams daily. It is critical.

Like I said I have made this transition and sustained it for 4 years. I’ve progressively gotten more healthy and athletically performant as I’ve stuck with it and I’m almost 40 now.

a source familiar with the matter 5mo ago

When I started carnivore I was eating a lot of beef liver and some kidney. Over time I lost the taste for it.

The skull/brain size thing might also be related to the forming of societies which favor hive minds instead of individual intelligence.

The hive mind was helpful and probably more important for tribe survival. Idk if that explains shrinking size of the brain.

It's some theory.

Interesting for sure

Hive mind (ie disabling independent thought to fit in with the herd) kept us alive pre-agriculture but I fully believe it is now humanity's greatest flaw.

100% it doesn’t scale

Yeah nah our societies are 100x more close-knit than before.

Now before anyone rushes off to join the hunter gatherers in the Amazon. Food security is also a thing. We're 6 inch shorter but also live until 80, even vegetarians live pretty long. Take that, stone age cave man.