Nostr Web Client

Nostr is decentralized, it will be centralized if we all used the same relays to see each other.

Gowron's client should not send the events to your relay, it doesn't makes sense to send my events to everyone relays.

Instead, Gowron's client send the events to Gowron's write relays, and your client should read from it and fetch Gowron's events, why? because Gowron in your follow list (contact list).

What is your client?

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 2w ago

ʜᴇʏ, ɪᴛ'ꜱ ᴊᴜꜱᴛ ᴀ ᴘᴏʟɪᴛᴇ ʀᴇǫᴜᴇꜱᴛ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜꜱᴇ ɪ'ᴍ ɴᴏᴛ ꜱᴇᴇɪɴɢ ʜɪꜱ ꜱᴛᴜꜰꜰ. ɪ ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ɴᴏꜱᴛʀ.ᴡɪɴᴇ, ᴍʏ ʀᴇʟᴀʏ, ᴀɴᴅ ꜱᴇᴠᴇʀᴀʟ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀꜱ ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ, ᴀɴᴅ ɢᴇᴛ ᴡᴀʀɴɪɴɢꜱ ꜰʀᴏᴍ ᴊᴜᴍʙʟᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴛᴏᴏ ᴍᴀɴʏ ʀᴇʟᴀʏꜱ, ᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛ ɪꜱ ɪᴍᴘᴏʀᴛᴀɴᴛ. ʜᴏᴡᴇᴠᴇʀ, ɪ ᴀᴍ ɢᴏɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ꜱᴇᴀʀᴄʜ ꜰᴏʀ ʜɪꜱ ʀᴇʟᴀʏ ʟɪꜱᴛ ᴀɴʏᴡᴀʏ.

ᴀʟꜱᴏ, ʏᴏᴜ ᴛᴏᴛᴀʟʟʏ ᴄᴏɴᴛʀᴀᴅɪᴄᴛᴇᴅ ʏᴏᴜʀꜱᴇʟꜰ ʙʏ ᴄᴀʟʟɪɴɢ *ᴀᴅᴅɪɴɢ* ᴍʏ ʀᴇʟᴀʏ ᴛᴏ ʜɪꜱ ʟɪꜱᴛ ᴀꜱ "ᴄᴇɴᴛʀᴀʟɪᴢɪɴɢ" ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜꜱᴇ ᴏʙᴠɪᴏᴜꜱʟʏ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ'ꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏᴘᴘᴏꜱɪᴛᴇ. ɪᴛ ᴡɪʟʟ ᴍᴇᴀɴ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴀʟʟ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ᴜꜱᴇʀꜱ ᴡʜᴏ ᴜꜱᴇ ᴍʏ ʀᴇʟᴀʏ, ᴡʜᴇᴛʜᴇʀ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴀʀᴇ ᴘᴇʀᴍɪᴛᴛᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴡʀɪᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ ɪᴛ ᴏʀ ɴᴏᴛ, ᴄᴀɴ ꜱᴇᴇ ʜɪꜱ ᴇᴠᴇɴᴛꜱ ᴇʟꜱᴇᴡʜᴇʀᴇ ᴛʜᴀɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏʙᴠɪᴏᴜꜱʟʏ ᴏᴜᴛꜱɪᴅᴇ-ᴏꜰ-ᴍʏ ʟɪꜱᴛ ʀᴇʟᴀʏꜱ ᴡʜᴇʀᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇᴠᴇɴᴛꜱ ᴀʀᴇ ɢᴏɪɴɢ ᴄᴜʀʀᴇɴᴛʟʏ.

ᴘʟᴇᴀꜱᴇ ᴜꜱᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴄᴀᴠɪᴛʏ ʙᴇᴛᴡᴇᴇɴ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴇᴀʀꜱ ʙᴇꜰᴏʀᴇ ʏᴏᴜ ꜱᴏᴜɴᴅ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴀɴ ɪᴅɪᴏᴛ

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 2w ago

also, he did add my relay, so it must be the client he is using, not using the relay correctly. nip-42 support on orly is completely correct and has been extensively tested and supported, it works fine with jumble, nostrudel and coracle

also, fun fact, the primal wallet does not support NWC correctly, to the point we have had to exclude it from testing on plebeian market.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 2w ago

ɪ wouʟᴅ noᴛ ʙe casᴛɪɢaᴛɪnɢ ʏou ɪꜰ ɪᴛ were noᴛ ꜰor ᴛʜe ꜰacᴛ ɪ ʜave aʟreaᴅʏ, ᴘrevɪousʟʏ, severaʟ ᴛɪmes ᴛrɪeᴅ ᴛo ꜰɪɢure ouᴛ wʜaᴛ ɪs causɪnɢ me ᴛo noᴛ see ʜɪs evenᴛs. ɪ ᴅouʙᴛ ʏou can ᴘoɪnᴛ ouᴛ a waʏ ᴛo ᴅeʙuɢ ɪᴛ ᴛʜaᴛ ɪ ʜaven'ᴛ aʟreaᴅʏ aᴘᴘʟɪeᴅ.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 2w ago

also, i don't think that Semisol has bothered to un-ban me from nostr.land relays. that won't be helping either. and i'm calling him out because a) he is effectively cutting me off, as evidenced by this situation, from people who i follow and b) he has not revised his blacklist with it in mind that he is cutting off two people on nostr from communicating.

Gowron 2w ago

* Amethyst * (again)

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 2w ago

i found that i had you on my mute list. fixed now. damn. didn't even think to look.

Awiteb 2w ago

> ᴀɴᴅ ɢᴇᴛ ᴡᴀʀɴɪɴɢꜱ ꜰʀᴏᴍ ᴊᴜᴍʙʟᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ɪ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴛᴏᴏ ᴍᴀɴʏ ʀᴇʟᴀʏꜱ

Just ignore it, you can have as many relays as you want, I don't know why it's suggested in the NIP to have less than 6.

> *ᴀᴅᴅɪɴɢ* ᴍʏ ʀᴇʟᴀʏ ᴛᴏ ʜɪꜱ ʟɪꜱᴛ ᴀꜱ "ᴄᴇɴᴛʀᴀʟɪᴢɪɴɢ" ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜꜱᴇ ᴏʙᴠɪᴏᴜꜱʟʏ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ'ꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏᴘᴘᴏꜱɪᴛᴇ

Why? you asking him to publish his events to a relay in your list, this isn't decentralization if I have to write to relays of people I know. Each person writes to whatever relay they want, and you (as a follower) have to listen to those relays and fetch their events.

To clarify, the client can connect to any relay without needing you to add it. The basis of Nostr's decentralization is its multiple relays. When the client forces you to use a specific set of relays, this isn't decentralization; the client has to connect to the relays of those you follow to fetch their events.

The client can also send to any relay, and must send the event to your read relays if the event mentioned you.

What client you are using? so I can report this issue.