And who knows how to do that, anyone?

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Fully FOSS and you can use without Google too! Goto settings and select Database encryption with Passphrase!

https://molly.im/

Same can be said of Signal. FOSS, usable without google. But, I guess if you want a little extra encryption (Signal is already encrypted), I guess Molly would be just fine.

Is it interoperable with signal? Can't get family to swap again, signal was hard enoigh.

Also future of messaging through nostr???