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As a republican I fought against Trump in the primaries, but held my nose and voted for him in the 2016 general. I was thereafter rather pleased with most of his policies. He spent too much, of course, and ignored the huge problem of entitlement reform. But, overall, his policies were very beneficial.

His performance during Covid was less than stellar. He (and we) would have been better off ditching Fauci and relying on the principles of individual responsibility and freedom. He tried to work against the lockdowns later; but the die had been cast and the democrats were just too focused on keeping everybody masked up and locked down.

Trump lost the election. His ranting and raving after that waas made clear was inexcusable. He single handedly lost the Senate by telling Georgians not to vote. That gave Biden a House and Senate majority with which to keep everyone locked down and spend like a drunken sailor -- driving our current inflation.

What election fraud there was, did not rise to the level of changing the outcome. Trump lost and Biden won. But that does not mean the election was fair.

Due to Covid the election rules were changed in many states, often in violation of those states' laws. Mail in voting and ballot drop boxes were among the issues. Trump, and the republicans, did not respond to this before the fact. This was just laziness, or perhaps overconfidence.

The real rigging of the election was accomplished by Mainstream and Social Media. The suppression of the Hunter Biden Laptop story was crucial. The general suppression of conservatives also played a big role. This was election tampering writ large; and it was largely ignored.

I am on Nostr today because of that.

From: JoySun<-cameri at 06/08/23 10:17:56 on wss://bitcoiner.social

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>Lol it's not about Trump. I'm not even for him but it's about facts or at least suspicions to look into things.

I was a Republican and voted Republican my entire adult life until 2016. I could no longer be associated with what the Republican party turned into. It's disgusting. So, I left it. Though, I believe most politics are that way now.

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The policital tribalism is certainly disgusting. I used to be able to talk with my democrat friends. I can't tell you how many of them I've lost simply by not deigning to vote the way they want. Several people I've been friends with over the years, and have helped in their careers, have disowned me, and have spread rumors and lies about me. They have attacked me professionally as well as personally.

Fortunately, they can't really harm me professionally. I don't get invited to speak at as many conferences anymore but I don't really want to go to those conferences anyway. The last time I went to a software conference I had to walk out on a keynote talk given by a VP of security who went on a rant about how awful republicans were.

As for the parties, I see the GOP starting to back away from Trump and reform itself into something better. At the same time I see the democrats drowning in the boiling pot of wokeness they have created. I think it will take some time for them to recover.

Meanwhile the backlash against the woke nonsense is starting to build both on the left and on the right. It turns out that there are some sane democrats after all. They were just, for a while, too afraid to speak up.

From: DerekRoss at 06/08/23 12:18:50 on wss://atlas.nostr.land

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>I was a Republican and voted Republican my entire adult life until 2016. I could no longer be associated with what the Republican party turned into. It's disgusting. So, I left it. Though, I believe most politics are that way now.

My long time close friend is on the extreme opposite from me. We had some arguments in 2020 and decided it was not worth it so we just agreed to not talk about it.

We deeply care about each other and remain close in each other's life. I think we are both lucky.

On the other hand, someone else I know which i probably agree with on most issues got mad because I don't think Trump is the right person for the job. So...it's really on personal basis and not a left/right thing but the media would have us believe all liberals are this and all conservatives are that and there's nothing and no one in between.

Yea the party is def corrupt