don't they still rely on key send or no?
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By and large, yes. It’s the best tool for automatic payments; ie send 1 sat per minute while listening to the podcast, aka streaming. Also the most efficient way to send payments to multiple wallets. However, we’ve been recently shifting to lnaddress, and the players are slowly shifting to work with either keysend or less efficiently with lnaddress
I think so. But from a non techie perspective, I've got to imagine with some funding they could figure out bolt 12 integration or some other methodology that is more seamless.
We’ve been waiting for Bolt 12 with bated breath.
we have been talking about Bolt12 for the last 4 years
I don't know the technical hurdles on the rss side but I'm seeing it integrated in a lot of the latest lightning applications. Ocean pool and coinos to name a few.
No technical hurdles, just a lack of major support. Good to see things moving in the direction of Bolt12.
Yep we just need something that works for what we are doing. Right now that is Alby since we have been working with them this whole time and they see the vision.
Coinos.io makes it extremely easy to spin up a wallet for valuesplits. It's custodial but that's the tradeoff. It does have a function though that allows automatic withdraws to another wallet (say a self custody non bolt 12 wallet) after your balance reaches x threshold. Could be a very viable workflow that makes onboarding a lot easier but we need bolt12 support in the splitkit or whatever is being used on the back end on rss side.
The apps have been looking into NWC. If you have an Alby account you can go to getalby.com/node and connect a NWC wallet to Alby and use your Alby account like you always have.
Coinos supports NWC but the keysend part is still buggy so it wont send a Boost from an app like Castamatic.
YakiHonne has a NWC wallet that does support keysend so if you spin one up and connect it then it all works.
We still want to use Alby but need an easy funding source for new listeners to send sats with. Us diehards have our own nodes for that but that doesn't work for most people. Right now we just tell everyone to switch to Fountain which is great but that's a lot of eggs in one basket.
I don’t know enough about Cashu to know if it could work for our purposes. Lots to look into.
I don't either. All of this ecash and cashu stuff I cant tell whats real or VC BS.
Most people are comfortable with custodial solutions. PC2.0 was no different. Until Alby changed their model, we all used their custodial wallet. I just want an easy wallet that I can easily move sats in and out and easily attach to any app. And sending payments is seamless.
I’d do some development for nostr, but integrating and respecting the splits is so fundamental to my vision that I’ve pulled back. I know there’s clients doing it, but the UX is less than ideal.
I’m hoping NWC allows me to move processing payments to a server so I don’t have to spend so many resources client side handling multiple Bolt 11 invoices.
bolt 12 zaps would be amazing
