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Urbit is different from nfts, have you read their docs?

I have, it's garbage written for non-technical people who likely cant differentiate between hosted cloud services vs virtual machines 😅 the grift takes the confusion and expands upon it.

"Stars", "Planets" and "Galaxies" are basically used to describe paying for someone's Amazon instance running a repo filled with random selections from the Awesome-Selfhosted GitHub, then host that (in most cases, free) software in a VM one must pay for with KYC tokens (etheiruym)🫠

Tldr; it's an attempt to re-sell shitty cloud infrastructure using space terms

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Mitnev 1y ago

Not correct. Easy for you to boot up a comet and explore the ecosystem. Reading and doing aren’t the same. Urbit is a long term project and a worthy one.

Nyoro~n 1y ago 💬 2

Then why did they build it on ethereium?🫠

Mitnev 1y ago 💬 1

Also not a fan of ethereium either, I get it. I’m not a dev, but practically speaking… it is only used to obtain and reboot(if needed) your unique id. Using L2 you dont even need a wallet. Otherwise you don’t have interact with it. Not an expert on the history, but my understanding is when Urbit was built 10ish years ago it was the best blockchain tool available at the time. It was a pragmatic choice. And for whatever flaws of that blockchain choice, at the community level it does seem to practically help prevent spam and bot problems. Thus, P2P support and trust appears much higher than here (in my several weeks of nostr exposure anyway). I’m here to learn about nostr. There are some advantages here, but my main suggestion if one cares about learnings in the P2P space it would leave a gap in knowledge to gloss over Urbit casually.

Nyoro~n 1y ago

nostr isn't p2p, it is just clients and relays. Consider checking out Keet rather than wasting your time (and money) with Urbit, its a p2p messaging/conference application that leverages DHT to make connections, no tokens necessary.

Generally ETH L2s make no sense because ethyrium's entire existence comes from the idea that bitcoin can't scale in layers due to its rigid limitations therefore it was determined that other "chains" to support applications and other usecases must be needed. The term "ETH L2" is an admission that ETH is pointless, yet another half-ass attempt at a narrative shift. It would do you well to avoid anything that uses nonsense jargon like that.

hodlbod 1y ago

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"

RandalM 1y ago

Who said that?

And a non-foolish consistency?

hodlbod 1y ago

Emerson. Otherwise, consistency is pretty cool

RandalM 1y ago

Ah, right. I'd forgotten. And was too lazy to go look it up. hahaha

I'm with you on that one.

Ram 1y ago

It's not built on Ethereum. They're just using it to associate a Galaxy, Star, and Planet to a unique public key (in this case an Ethereum address). Those aren't just "tiers of cloud hosting," they're uniquely identifiable points that facilitates P2P comms (peer discovery and routing) inside the network.

It's annoying that they've built their PKI on Ethereum. I don't like it as well. If it's possible to move it on Bitcoin I'll be one of the first people to advocate for it.

Urbit is a worthy piece of tech in itself and it's merits shouldn't be understated just because its public key infrastructure is on Ethereum.

Nyoro~n 1y ago 💬 1

It's a pile of bullshit

Ram 1y ago

OK.

Ram 1y ago

Urbit massively simplifies the entire dance of spinning up a VM, installing n+1 packages, and running n+1 Docker containers. It's literally a VM that you can run anywhere that has its entire communications and publishing stack built-in.

You should really read the overview before saying anything about it. It just makes you look massively uninformed.

https://urbit.org/overview

Nyoro~n 1y ago

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