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That's why I have tried to help this user in the past. I've mentioned to them numerous times why zap4follow is bad for Nostr, and advised them on ways to grow their account more naturally.

vinney...axkl 9mo ago

fair. I'm still going to continue following him, though. how will we know if he changes his ways otherwise?

WoT shouldn't work on follows, anyway. I should be able to follow someone in order to see their notes, whether I trust them deeply or hate and distrust them entirely. it just means I want to see their notes. we need better ways to represent reputation and trust that aren't follow-related (ahem, grape rank, cough cough nostr:nprofile1qqsw2feday2t6vqh2hzrnwywd9v6g0yayejgx8cf83g7n3ue594pqtcpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmqprfmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuarpwpjhxarj0yhxu6twdfssz9mhwden5te0dehhxarj9enx6apwwa5h5tnzd9aqhdwwcj)

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Ryan 9mo ago

I'm in 💯 agreement on that. A follow means nothing, just that a button has been clicked one time. Hopefully we see more of a move toward multiple lists, and using something else for trust. I wish I had a "trusted users" list, that I could add people I have met IRL, and users whom I've had extensive interactions with to. Follows don't really mean much.

Laeserin 9mo ago

Most follows aren't even the result of clicking the "follow" button, people just get onboarded with them.

Ryan 9mo ago

That's a good point ☝️

Laeserin 9mo ago

That's why there's a subset of npubs with a sky-high and steadily-increasing number of followers, that hardly ever post anything.

I've been protesting the Tyranny of Follows, for a while; that's why I hardly have any. It pisses everyone off and makes me look rude, but

Ryan 9mo ago

Influencer types won't let follows go, even though they are useless 😂

unknown 9mo ago

🧐

Laeserin 9mo ago

#PurpleKonnektiv is going to add attestation abilities to the meetup app. 🤙

david 9mo ago

I’m glad to hear that! What types of attestations? The more high quality trust signals become available, the easier it will be to supplant follows as a source of trust signal.

Augment may be a better word than supplant. The more data sources we have, the better.

Laeserin 9mo ago

We first just did badges, but that's really easy to game and some people troll others with rude badges or wait until people add badges to their profile and then turn the images into porn. Very funny.

Then we thought a handshake method would be good, so that someone can give someone else part of their WoT, if they know them IRL.

And there are also ways to gamify the handshake at meetups, by using techniques that requiring seeing the same thing or connecting over Bluetooth, or whatnot.