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I believe Samson arrives at this 83,000 BTC total by looking at the reported gold reserves of the Republic of China (colloquially known as Taiwan) in proportion to the gold supply held by central banks around the world, building off of RFK Jr's strategy. Very cool.

For reference, the gold supply for the Central Bank of China (🇹🇼 ) was mostly brought over by the Chinese Nationalists at the end of the Chinese Civil War. The gold is currently held in the mountains of Wulai, Xindian District under military guard. Our "Fort Knox" is called 文園. Central Bank of China has the world's 12th largest gold reserve

83,000 BTC sounds fine for the Republic of China. I personally think that Taiwan should set their sights higher. It's important to remember that Taiwan is the name of the island; it is currently a territory of the Republic of China. Strictly speaking, there is no "Taiwan" to hold Bitcoin, just individual Taiwanese.

While they are often discussed together, Taiwanese independence and global recognition of Republic of China (which left the UN in 1971) aren't the same thing. Both worthwhile pursuits.

Taiwan has had a rough century with fiat money. The story of the current iteration of the New Taiwan Dollar issued by the Central Bank of China in Taipei is actually fairly new (2000).

Taiwan didn't have an island-wide circulating currency until 1899 when the Bank of Taiwan issued gold-backed yen notes when it became a Japanese colony near the end of the Qing dynasty.

Prior to an island-wide currency, the pirate island of Taiwan used Spanish and Dutch copper and silver coins (15-16th centuries), which eventually turned into silver taels from the Ming and Qing dynasties. Taiwanese history shows that Taiwanese understand the prosperity (and chaos) that can occur when economic actors (pirates) have the freedom to choose their own money.

Taiwanese exported gold and lumber to fund the Japanese war efforts, but by the end of WWII, the Taiwanese gold vaults were effectively empty, unable to back the circulating currency. When the retreating Chinese Nationalists came over (in the midst of their own hyperinflation), the currency fell into disarray as it was no longer backed by the banks of the Japanese empire.

Taiwanese yen was converted to the "old Taiwan dollar" at a rate of 1:1. In two short years (1949) as the Central Bank of China in Shanghai fell into its own hyperinflation, the exchange rate became 40,000:1. At this point, the Central Bank of China had collapsed, and the only remaining bank operating in the territories of the Republic of China was the Bank of Taiwan. The Bank of Taiwan then issued the first iteration of the New Taiwan Dollar (1949) backed with whatever could be seized by force. The Bank of Taiwan had this peculiar structure where it issued currency for circulation sitting outside of the Republic of China constitution; this was rectified in the year 2000 when the Central Bank of China was reinstated in full, returning the power to "print".

In short, Taiwan never had its own money.

The gold doesn't belong to Taiwan and the notes are printed by a bank that isn't from the island. To change the status quo would be very difficult because the constitution of the Republic of China is notoriously hard to change. Taiwan would need another solution.

Bitcoin's 21 million offers a unique opportunity for Taiwan's 23 million people. Taiwan's greatest export of the last few decades has been affordable secure computing, which aligns well with Bitcoin. I believe Taiwan benefits from Bitcoin's success whether or not politicians do anything. A money without a state for an island without a country has a nice ring to it.

Taiwan has always been a bastion of free trade, often shared across empires even under colonial rule. Taiwan has never been a winner-takes-all. From a historical standpoint, the role as a geopolitical chess piece to check global powers is an anomaly.

I believe one day "Bitcoin" will be known in the future as Taiwan's greatest export (far more important than smartphone cpus and boba milk tea). Whether from the ASICs hashing away the next block, to the memory and storage chips for the saving transactions and block data, to the cpus to run the software that validates everything, and all the networking components to tie it all together even down to tiny screws and bolts to put them all together. There's a lot to be proud of for what Taiwan can offer Bitcoin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHf2qm-8I0Y

For Taiwanese who understands Freedom better than the Republic of China, they should aim to stack much more than 83,000 BTC. 🥳

I don't know why I wrote all of this 😅

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Those gold is rubbed from mainland China by ROC, so there is no Taiwan to hold bitcoin , just mainland Chinese

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Robbed

As Chiang-kai Shiek would respond: "come get it 😡🚀"

On a more serious note, I wouldn't say it was robbed, it was basically the only capital that was allowed to leave during wartime because by all measures the bulk of industry and human capital remained seized in China. (Communism is predicated on theft) The gold that left mainland China certainly doesn't belong to the CCP -- there's a pile of artillery shells on Kinmen to make that point. The narrative that KMT bankrupted mainland China is just another entry to the long list of excuses of how communists mismanaged resources; for the purpose to draw blame away from the central planners. For example, Chinese visitors to the National Palace Museum often say that the treasures were stolen but all it takes to shut them up is to say "well, you'd have all of this stuff and more if you guys didn't burn down everything in the Cultural Revolution"🤷

就像你說的不是台灣hold,是台灣人民hold。理論上政府沒有財產,一切皆屬於人民。民國政府當年帶到台灣的黃金及文物這些是大陸人民的財產。

所有這些來著大陸的黃金及文物置於台灣的和合理性是基於中華民國的存在「法理上大陸隸屬于中華民國,是淪陷區」。

假設哪天台灣獨立了,民主國家的台灣會如何處置這些屬於中國的東西呢?歸還or佔為己有?

黃金和寶物是否要留在台灣就看民國政府願不願意當台灣人啊。(不見得呢)難道紅毛城還是屬於西班牙的?🤷

再怎麼說文園的黃金不是屬於大陸的,要的話就只能打仗,難道還要幫他們搬🤣

是這樣。我如果是台灣人我也是會說:中華民國你可以滾,把財產留下!

大陸人如果不同意,那是真有一拼了😂

誰管他們同不同意啊🙂‍↔️

中華民國能混到現在還不是因為有台灣水喝,有台灣米吃 民國政府可是欠台灣人不少呢 🙃 難道黃金能吃喔~ 要回大陸是個人自由,回去之前先買單,別當奧客