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i think if we include the caveat of "custody and UX dont matter"

you can basically do what monero does with LN.

And I don't mean that they don't matter at all. Only that I want to remove them as distractions for what I care about in this never ending debate.

We can improve UX and tradeoff education.

In that case, all I'm really seeing is that Monero packs all of that into a single base layer (even though someone said they're making a Lightning equal - why if Monero has all the answers as it is?)

It seems like having everything in one layer was just never going to work. You can't technically have it all. I'm just trying to isolate the actual debate. There's way too much convolution for me to ever take away anything useful.

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Hanshan 7mo ago

Theres certainly a limit to how much you can pack into a blockchain. blockchains dont scale. which is why theres been talk of a batched payment network for monero (its just talk).

but the debate is

what exactly ARE the tradeoffs in moving to an L2?

can we expect those tradeoffs to be stable in a changing surveillance environment?

etc...

it is totally neverending and completely relate to just wanting to figure it out and be done with it.