I think it's agreat idea, just haven't run into a use case for it yet. nostr:nprofile1qydhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnrda5kuen4dejxjapwvdhk6tcpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ukzcnvv5hx7un89uq3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwd4hhxarj9ec82c30qywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytfsxgh8jcttd95x7mnwv5hxxmmd9uq32amnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwv3sk6atn9e5k7tcqyqqqqqqrwa2qysf4jkkfu9sjhm2s3q27nrky42wk3gnz3lmp2jzk7rsam5q has prototyped some stuff.
Has anyone tried to integrate something like https://proofofhumanity.id/ or https://www.brightid.org/ to a Nostr app? I know linking secondary IDs has been done, but proving you’re not a bot in a way that maintains privacy seems genuinely useful and not just a secondary thing.
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It’s sort of a “car vs faster horse” thing. If you ask people on twitter what they want, they’ll say “less bots”. What if they just want to know when they’re talking to a real human for certain, and a way to optionally filter out all bots in general?
Doesn’t need to become a desperate marketing ploy for Nostr, but it could absolutely be a leg up for the network if a solution like that existed here. Because twitter will always promote spam bots. They increase shareholder value.
I wonder though if something like Bright ID could be implemented in a frictionless manner with a Nostr app though. Linking Nostr ID to Bright ID is simple enough. From there it’s essentially just scanning a QR code in person to verify your friends. Sybil resistance and privacy preserving afaik
I'd personally like to see a NIP for this; ID providers could then publish attestations (unless privacy is an issue?) and clients could fetch attestations from reputed ID providers. This would make it possible for anyone to become an ID provider.
Yeah the main question is how to preserve privacy. Seemingly the best way is to just have multiple verifier services.
But the thing is, their ability to truly identify a human accurately would still be inferior to a full Sybil resistant network right? People could share fake credentials and scam the verifiers. I guess multiple verifiers would compete on who could verify the best, but still. The meta game could incentivize the verifiers to allow a few exceptions here and there.
A decentralized solution like the two I linked above (maybe there are others too) might be better
All those Nostr meetups and conferences, people could be scanning each others phones and verifying each other!
That's sort of what I'm thinking, if anyone can make attestations you can select which ones you trust, making it decentralized and also be able to fallback to well-known/institutional ones. You don't have to limit yourself to just one attestation either.
What if someone is verified human and then lets a bot run their account? They can go to a different verifier and prove to be human again. They can have as many bots as there are verifier services.
I think this is the problem that Bright ID tries to solve
Interesting, I see what you mean. I'll have to look more closely at it
Yup. Decentralized ID systems have failed in the past because credentials are not easily discoverable. Pseodonymity and multiple profiles is the way to go.
How are badges related to IDs?
It’s the closest NIP (NIP-58) for attestations, where an issuer attests something is true about a recipient.
I have a use case for this actually.
Prove that someone lives in a certain area. Mail a code to someone and they enter the code they were mailed, then they get the attestation that they live in a city or state etc. Could do this process once a year to verify.
Then stuff like civil discourse becomes much more meaningful. No bots or people from other locations chiming in.
nostr:npub12a77qmwwzc9qx7gk8f9m0d5qhclq5rsudr0xu6agcqgnfdzqvnwsfrrdyd we’ve been talking to nostr:npub1dmu30axh63xcd2d40pj8lmnd008utpu9mz2ru3dnj9gd3kz2zr2qd74mg5 about that idea as a way of adapting the Front Porch Forum model to Nostr. Nothing concrete, just throwing around ideas.