Replying to Avatar Rob Woodgate

How about adding a locktime and refund pk(s) to revert your p2pk eCash if not redeemed?
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Five 5mo ago

Yes that's the idea, basically.

If I want to send ecash as payment for freelancing on [SatShoot](https://satshoot.com) I want to do it with p2pk so it is easy to build Reputation from provable zaps, published to nostr but tied to the recipient pubkey.

The problem is when the zap cannot reach the recipient which could be due to multiple causes but I want to have a safe path for clients to get back the p2pk ecash that was never redeemed by the recipient freelancer.

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calle 5mo ago

Sounds like p2pk with a timelocked refund path could be useful!

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Rob Woodgate 5mo ago

Take a look at Cashu NutLock as an example of tokens with refund timelock.

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Rob Woodgate 5mo ago

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„₯σ „±σ …‚σ …‚σ …’σ „Ήσ …œσ „±σ …©σ ……σ „΅σ …£σ …™σ „Όσ „Έσ …£σ …™σ …’σ …σ „©σ …₯σ …‰σ „’σ ……σ …™σ „Ώσ …™σ „Ήσ …ͺσ „Ύσ „΄σ …σ …©σ …Šσ …‡σ „΅σ „€σ …Šσ „΄σ „Ίσ …œσ „½σ „΄σ …”σ …˜σ …Šσ „·σ „΅σ „ σ „½σ …šσ …Šσ …™σ …‰σ „’σ „Ήσ „₯σ „Ώσ …‡σ „Ήσ …¨σ „Ώσ …‡σ „½σ „£σ …Šσ …šσ …“σ „€σ „Ύσ …„σ „±σ …ͺσ „Ύσ „΄σ „±σ „₯σ …‰σ …„σ „Άσ …™σ „Ώσ „·σ …σ „£σ „Ώσ „΄σ „Άσ …šσ „Ύσ „΄σ …—σ „€σ „Ώσ …„σ „Άσ …œσ „½σ „΄σ …‚σ …šσ „½σ „΄σ …›σ …ͺσ „Ώσ „΄σ „Ύσ …œσ „½σ …„σ …†σ …›σ „Ήσ …™σ …§σ …™σ …Šσ „·σ „Άσ „ σ …‰σ …ƒσ „Ήσ „¦σ „Ήσ …šσ „±σ …©σ …Šσ „΄σ „±σ „ σ …Šσ …‡σ „Ύσ …σ „½σ …ͺσ „Ύσ …˜σ „½σ …ͺσ „±σ …ͺσ …‰σ …„σ ……σ „₯σ „Ώσ „΄σ ……σ …©σ …Šσ …σ …‚σ …™σ „Ύσ …šσ …—σ …¨σ …Šσ …‡σ …σ „€σ …‰σ …šσ …σ …¨σ „½σ …šσ „Ήσ …§σ „½σ …‡σ „Ίσ …˜σ „Ώσ „΄σ …†σ …›σ „Ώσ „·σ …σ …©σ „½σ …„σ …›σ „₯σ …‰σ …‡σ …†σ …šσ „Ύσ …ͺσ „Ύσ …šσ …‰σ …šσ …‰σ …©σ „Ύσ …šσ …—σ …¨σ …Šσ „΄σ …‰σ …©σ …‰σ …‡σ „΅σ „₯σ „½σ „³σ „Ήσ …£σ „Ήσ …žσ …‚σ …˜σ …Šσ „£σ „½σ …™σ „Ώσ …œσ …€σ …’σ „Ήσ …σ …¨σ …¦σ …‰σ „’σ …€σ „ σ …‘σ …‡σ „‘σ …œσ „Ήσ …™σ …§σ …™σ „½σ …„σ …“σ „‘σ „½σ …ͺ󠅁󠄀󠄾󠄴󠄽󠄠󠄽󠄳󠄺󠅔󠄼󠄢󠅣󠅙󠅓󠅝󠅆󠅝󠅔󠅇σ „₯σ …›σ „Ήσ …™σ …§σ …™σ „½σ „΄σ „Ίσ …šσ …Šσ …‡σ „½σ …§σ …Šσ …šσ …σ „ σ …Šσ „΄σ „²σ …›σ „Ύσ …šσ …‚σ …›σ „Ύσ …σ …σ „₯σ …Šσ „΄σ …”σ …˜σ „½σ …‡σ „½σ „€σ „Ύσ „·σ „½σ …ͺσ „½σ …ͺσ „²σ …σ „Ύσ …„σ …σ „’σ „Ύσ „’σ ……σ „£σ „Ύσ …„σ „Ίσ …šσ …‰σ …ͺσ …˜σ …™σ „½σ „΄σ …‰σ „‘σ …Šσ …šσ …“σ …©σ „½σ „·σ ……σ „€σ „Ύσ …ͺσ …‚σ …˜σ „½σ „·σ „Ίσ …œσ …Šσ „΄σ „Άσ …šσ „Ύσ …„σ …σ …¨σ „Ύσ …σ …σ …©σ „Ήσ …œσ „‘σ …”σ …–σ …†σ „‘σ …˜σ …‰σ „‘σ …—σ …˜σ „±σ „‘σ „½σ …©σ …₯σ „Ώσ „Άσ „Ώσ …—σ … σ „Άσ …Šσ …žσ …–σ …„σ …œσ „Ίσ …“σ …σ „³σ …–σ „₯󠄡󠅓󠄧󠅏󠅂σ …₯σ „§σ …©σ …‘σ …˜σ …†σ „ σ …„σ …’σ „₯σ …’σ …Ÿσ „Έσ „΅σ …ˆσ …σ …€σ …‰σ …‡σ …ƒσ …šσ …‰σ …‡σ …†σ …‰σ „Ήσ „Ήσ „©σ …‰σ …€σ …Šσ …—σ „‘σ …†σ …ͺσ …§σ „€σ …•σ „£σ „¨σ „΅σ „σ ……σ …¨σ „΅σ „’σ „΅σ „¦σ …€σ …§σ „Ίσ „€σ …‘σ …‘σ …€σ …•σ „Έσ …€σ „Άσ …˜σ „Έσ …‘σ …”σ …„σ …ˆσ „§σ …‡σ „Ώσ …£σ …‰σ …ˆσ „Ύσ …‰σ „Ήσ „²σ „³σ „»σ „Όσ „€σ …‚σ …žσ „₯σ „§σ …¨σ …£σ …†σ …žσ „±σ „»σ …‚σ „¨σ „½σ „©σ „¨σ „ σ „Έσ „’σ …‘σ „ σ …„σ …•σ …—σ …‚σ …Ÿσ „»σ …‡σ ……σ …ˆσ … σ „Ήσ „₯σ „₯σ …σ „Άσ …–σ „§σ …‘σ …‰σ …ˆσ „Ίσ …‰σ „Ήσ „΄σ „€σ „Ύσ …•σ „Ίσ …σ „‘σ …‘σ …’σ …›σ „₯σ …“σ „Άσ „½σ …’σ …€σ … σ …€σ …€σ …€σ …¨σ „Άσ …–σ „±σ „Έσ …‚σ „»σ „¨σ …‘σ „·σ …™σ …’σ „Έσ „³σ …œσ „»σ ……σ „€σ „₯σ …œσ „²σ …†σ …