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Rob Woodgate
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Entrepreneur, software developer and marketer. Working on #nostr #cashu 🫑 My better half: https://www.heidiwoodgate.com ⚑️Nostrly: https://www.nostrly.com ⚑️Github: https://github.com/robwoodgate ⚑️AWtomator: https://www.awtomator.com ⚑️ListLockr: https://www.listlockr.com

Merry Christmas Eve. May you find peace and joy, wherever you are and whatever you are doing.

Not really a pivot, just leaning into the β€œos” of Nostr… Notes β€œand Other Stuff” transmitted by relays.

Notes is the familiar hook, and decentralized social media is a vital piece of the puzzle.

But just being a twitter clone is leaving the bulk of Nostr’s unique superpowers hidden.

Exactly right. I tried to express that sentiment to fiatjaf earlier this year.

β€œClones” rarely win over the original. But Nostr wins because it is the social / identity / marketplace layer for Bitcoin... and a decentralised communications layer for countless other apps.

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The beauty of P2BK is that it provides perfect privacy. Alice and Bob do not need to communicate at all to set it up - all Alice needs is Bob's public key.

The ecash is locked to totally unique blinded public key(s), keeping the receiver's identity private from anyone who views the ecash. This means tokens can be published securely in public.

The sender's identity is also protected, because Alice uses an ephemeral keypair to create the shared secret, and throws it away afterwards. All Bob needs is the ephemeral Public Key!

Now Bob can use the magic of ECDH... he takes his private key (p) and the ephemeral public key that Alice sent with the ecash (E), and he can calculate the SAME shared secret!

He can now use that shared secret to derive a private key to unlock the ecash.

She then calculates a "shared secret" by point-multiplying her ephemeral private key (e) with Bob's public key (P). This gives a shared point (known as "Z").

Here's the magic... this shared point (Z) is the SAME as if she had multiplied her private key (e), Bob's private key (p) and the cryptographic Generator point (G).

But she calculated it using Bob's PUBLIC key.

She then generates a random, temporary keypair (Public Key: E, Private Key: e) known as her "ephemeral key pair".

The magic of ECDH is possible because a person's Public key (eg: NPUB) is their Private key multiplied by the curve base point G.

It's a calculation that simple to do, but pretty much impossible to reverse engineer.

In other words, you can easily calculate a public key (P) given its private key (p), but crucially, you can't calculate a private key from the public key!

Pay to Blinded Key (P2BK) uses Elliptic Curve Diffie-Hellman (ECDH) to establish a shared secret key over a public or insecure channel.

Here's how it works... in layman's terms.

The solution is to "blind" the public keys cryptographically, in a way that only the sender and receiver can reverse.

This makes it easy to link Proofs together, and removes privacy - especially if the Proof is linked to a long-lived public key, such as a Nostr NPUB.

"Pay to Public Key" (P2PK) is the standard way of locking ecash to one or more public keys.

The problem, however, is that these keys are visible in the ecash Proof by design.

Introducing "Pay to Blinded Key" (P2BK) for Cashu - an exciting privacy upgrade for creating P2PK locked proofs.

It's currently a draft specification - likely "NUT-26".

Here's a quick explainer thread 🧡

Replying to Avatar calle

story time. the recently disclosed nutshell cashu mint vulnerability is as ironic as it gets. it’s very similar to an inscription which is hilarious. as per the cashu spec, a HTLC must have a preimage witness size of 32 bytes.

unfortunately, the mint never checked the size before validating and storing it in its db. we simply overlooked it. since users never paid a fee that depends on the witness size (because we assumed it would be constant), this allowed the attacker to store jpgs of dickbutts in a mints database. for free!

fortunately there’s no messy consensus in cashu. every mint operator dictates their own rules. the fix is simple: now we reject all tokens with a witness that’s too large. those maliciously crafted tokens (of which we haven’t seen any in the wild) can’t be spent anymore.

i must admit, given my recent active engagement in the filter debate, this is probably the funniest exploit possible. i own this one and i’m giggling as i type this. it’s pure comedy.

however, this doesn’t mean the disclosure has gone well. the attacker has proven to be malicious and refused to coordinate with us. instead, he’s putting active mints at risk. this is not how responsible disclosure works. very unprofessional. if you run a mint or know someone who does, update to the latest version (0.18.1) where this issue is fixed. funds were never in danger.

it’s certainly worth a laugh. grill me. this one is simply too good. 😊

thanks to the entire cashu team for their amazing work and their swift reaction. you’ve handled it like pros.

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Maybe obedience is the wrong word, but it certainly implies in unequal relationship, like leader/follower, shepherd/sheep, guru/disciple

This weekend I shall mostly be taking in the sea air… and some sunshine ( hopefully 🀞)

It is an open-source Chaumian ecash protocol built for Bitcoin.

Go down the rabbit hole here: https://cashu.space/

Doing my bit (chat)… but being esrly

Is pretty lonely

Orwellian tyranny always starts β€œfor your children’s safety”.

You can only redeen in the mint you got it from... or you can melt your token and transfer it elsewhere (eg via bolt11 to a lightning address / invoice).

LN is part of it (and a rail that Cashu uses too). Cashu mints are like banks. They accept collateral (Bitcoin) and issue tokens (vouchers / β€œbank notes”) for that collateral.

They β€œcould” conceivably be fractional, and as Hal rightly said, people may trust/value tokens from one mint less than another.