Nostr Web Client

***** #Rant And #Complaints About #Nostr So Far *****

So I'm a forum/reddit type of person. I'm not into following fucking 'people' or celebrities. It's retarded.

Like, I don't care about some dumb thought you post that you think is inspirational or clever. Or basically pretty much everything that's on nostr, with all honesty.

I don't understand the appeal to the Twitter layout. I don't. It's a firehouse of random shit. No categories , no topics, I don't get that. I'm going to social media because I'm interested in looking at my interests.

Osint, clothes, reddit alternatives, social media, pet care, hair care etc

Where the fuck am I supposed to look? Just shift through a bunch of bullshit? Oh, wait, a hashtag right?

Yea well guess what? That doesn't solve shit. Here's why.

When I'm on reddit in the makeup sub, I GO DIRECTLY TO THE MAKEUP SUB. THING IS, THERE ARE NO SUBS FOR MAKEUP HERE.

I can filter by MULTIPLE words inreddit. Not just by ONE.

When I'm lookin for eyeliner brushes, I can type that in and find all the posts and comments seperated for each and with the words highlighted.

You can't do that here. I would have to look for #eyeliner #makeup #brushes separately.

That's just an example. Do you see what I'm saying here?

Do you see the problem? Yes there are communities, but no one is using them because they are optional.

Why can't words that are hashtaged be automatically populated into those communities? They would group together into the communituy but also still show in the feed.

So if you come here looking for something, you don't have to search for it.

It's not the extra effort that pisses me off. What makes me irritated is, you can't find what you want to see in an efficient way, that makes sense, is organized and isn't cluttered.

Shits all over the place. Also, with reddit and internet forums, your interests are actually fucking there. And seperated for you, FOR YOU TO FIND. Making it easy to contribute in the right sub. That's what you go there for.

●●● But this is a blogging platform. So the fuck is nostr ever going to have communities that operate like forums? ●●●

People arnt here for their interests or to contribute to any. They're here to BLOG, post pictures of what they are having for dinner, say something random, or obsess about fucking Bitcoin.

It's like, built for people to talk about themselves and pretty much post about whatever they want THAT ISN'T TOPIC BASED.

In closing.

I'm sorry I complained this much. I know posts on the internet when someone bitches is really fucking annoying. If I was a developer and had that knowledge and skill set. I would fix nostr myself. But I can't.

Anyway, thank you for reading. I know I complain about this alot.

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The Beave 2y ago

Don't be sorry. You're trying t love the needle to make the protocol better for those who want a different interface. That's not a bad thing

Thank you. I just wished they listened. They don't care about anything other then Bitcoin.

I'm not sure if Alex Gleason is a nostr developer specifically or works for nostr/jack, but he's the one who made the fediverse bridge just to get some diversified content that wasn't centered around Bitcoin.

If he's not working directly for nostr, and did that himself, that really shows the nostr developers are lazy fat fucks who don't give a shit about anything other then fucking Bitcoin.

I just feel like they are pretending, and trying to get whatever will benefit them because of Bitcoin

The Beave 2y ago

I don't know enough yet to really respond, but, all I know is that I like it here so far, even with its flaws, so I'm biased and can't be too critical.

As for being lazy, it doesn't seem that way to me. Heck, amethyst has been updated 4 times in the two weeks I've been on this protocol. That's really fast paced dev work.

I do see the value in better topical modes, though. The interface, at least on amethyst, is not particularly well organized, IMO.

I can agree

50c5c98c... 2y ago

Nostr is an pioneering event.

You are roughing it outside, but complaining there's no hot water for showers.

Suck it up, buttercup.

Deal with it, adapt, or don't.

Feel free to give up on nostr and go back to the centralized social media.

splinter 2y ago

Nostr is a protocol that can support all manner of clients, I think Alice's point is that there are no viable Reddit style implementations yet and that's frustrating.

It's not an attack on Nostr, on the contrary it's a desire to see serious Reddit-like clients on Nostr instead of the forest of Twitter-clones.

That's exactly my point thank you

splinter 2y ago

nostr:npub1lunaq893u4hmtpvqxpk8hfmtkqmm7ggutdtnc4hyuux2skr4ttcqr827lj a useful rant, you're trying to make communities work more than most so you might be interested in this feedback.

thank you

How does this affects Bitcoin?

What do you mean

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If you want to see it build it, or suggest it. Come here bitching because the client you've chosen doesn't do what you want makes you sound dim witted and entitled.

Also, I see in your comment further down you refer to Devs as "fat lazy fucks". Get on and build something then instead of whining.

Shut the fuck up you wanna be ass Brock Lezner.

I said in my post if I new how do it I would you fucking moron

I knew there'd be some tramps arriving here sooner or later. I had hoped it'd be later.

You're an idiot lol go finish sucking your grandfather off 🤣

50c5c98c... 2y ago

Gotta show him how it's done first, lazy entitled whiner.

𝟭𝗨𝗣 2y ago

Luckily most of your concerns are about clients and not about the protocol. The good news is with more and more people coming new clients will emerge all in different flavors. There are discussions about imdb clone, OF clone, etc. Most clients right now are twitter clones. So what? Supply will meet demand because profit.

Second, you complain about the dinner photos, blog posts and endless talk about bitcoin. Welcome to the permissionless internet. Everyone(!) has a voice here. One cannot get banned from nostr. Say it out loud. Instead of being annoyed try to appreciate the implications (good and bad) of this innovation.

Third, it's not true that you have to know coding in order to change nostr. Grab a pen and sketch it on paper how your dream client would look like. Have you seen the NIPs? They are mostly in plain english. Being hostile and insulting others is probably not the best way of getting your ideas through.

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Dan Wedge 2y ago

My only solution is “satellite” I believe nostr:npub1vwymuey3u7mf860ndrkw3r7dz30s0srg6tqmhtjzg7umtm6rn5eq2qzugd is using it… and just did this podcast. Hopefully this helps.

https://on.soundcloud.com/tq5hsvCFsRDQGNA88

Thanks

Nunya Bidness 2y ago

Satellite.earth is very much what you’re describing here.

yes I have and use Satalite earth

Nunya Bidness 2y ago

You can also get these exact same communities inside of Nostrudel.ninja

I've added quite a few yesterday.

Its chaos for sure. I can understand your feelings here 🤙

Appreciate that

you should check out or follow the work of @npub1ye5ptcxfyyxl5vjvdjar2ua3f0hynkjzpx552mu5snj3qmx5pzjscpknpr , he is making a client nostrudel.ninja . I believe he has the same desires for moderated communities, and is working on a client that could support this use case 🤙

It's also just a great client, imo

I just followed him, thank you for that. I really appreciate it.

I use nostrudle on the spring android app, bc I can't figure out how to login to the nostrudle PWA that I installed from Chrome on my phone.

Using it on spring is ok. Just kinda cluttered and compact.

I spent a lot of time posting and creating communities ppl can participate in yesterday. But no one is using them.

So, there isn't much of anything to interact with right now. Which is really fucking lame and disappointing.

Why do you think no one is interested in creating or posting in communities here?

What do you think?

its just too new (not only nostr, but clients with community functionality is new within nostr), unfortunately you'd probably need to be willing to bootstrap it pretty hard..engaging individuals on here, getting people in other social media to cross over, fostering the community as the tools are being built in real time. It could be a very long time before it looks like reddit, but it would be incredible and way better if one did it on this protocol and not one that is completely captured 🤙

despite the glamor they like to exude, the business of building clients and simple data filters is not that high a bar of entry. you seem to have the ability to type and that's kinda prerequisite for being a programmer, maybe you could build something?

those of us who are actually building things find these whine sessions pretty boring because we aren't getting paid much, if anything, to do what we are doing. you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. start doing something about it instead of expecting daddy elon to solve your problems.

Good for you champ

captain ☦️ 2y ago

Disagree. There is not one nostr. You don't need to use relays where people talk about bitcoin.

Oh really? Well just let me remove all those relays real quick aaaaaand everyone's gone.

captain ☦️ 2y ago

You could use https://hotrightnow.nostr1.com

FUCKING RIGHT !!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 lol exactly 💯

Ive deleted some.