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Ahh, so then the secret fire is more akin to Nagualism. Interesting.

Are you familiar with the work of Sergio Magana on that subject?

I've heard that Castaneda made his stuff up, however that doesn't mean he wasn't just using fabrications to "tell the truth" as Evey's father from V for Vendetta would say.

Alchemy and Hermetic knowledge have exactly to do with Kundalini, activation of higher chakras, achieving the Tibetan "rainbow body" aka enlightenment, etc. Dzogchen is an enlightenment tradition too.

Enlightenment is activating all chakras, all 7 colors of the spectrum of light, so it all connects.

I see you've adopted Crowley's spelling of magic (magick). I haven't studied Crowley but I am aware that his spelling was meant to distinguish stage illusions from the practices of the Magi.

I would relish the opportunity to go back in time and talk with him about that choice because I think I could have convinced him to go another path.

The real name of the Magi was the Medjay which might seem like a pedantic etymological distinction but there's a cover up at play. The "dj" in Medjay has a specific meaning that relates back to Egyptian hieroglyphs.

In my opinion, the spelling Crowley should have gone with is "medjaic" given that these were the practices of the Medjay.

Algis 10mo ago 💬 1

No, the Secret Fire is something else, not mentioned in other traditions, at least to our knowledge. It's a novel concept, unrelated to Nagual or other Shamanic terms.

We touch on the Rainbow body in the seminar, what it exactly is and what it is not (not enlightenment). Also the chakras are mentioned, but in a contrarian way.

The whole thing is contrarian. It includes many of the known concepts, yet some of them it completely demolishes and some of them it turns upside down, because that's the only way one can make sense of them.

Unless you are using Spelling to perform a magical act, ie you use your voice as an instrument, it doesn't really matter how you spell it in writing. I use Magick in writing to distinguish it from party tricks as you recognized, but that's about it. I don't place much emphasis on it. In the end, if it works, it doesn't really matter how it's called.

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RedTailHawk 10mo ago 💬 1

Nagualism is very much about lucid dreaming so that's how they are "akin" to one another. I'm not saying they're EXACTLY the same but I am saying they are the same because they do possess similarities.

Enlightenment is exactly that. The theme of light is not exclusive to one tradition to define. Keter/kether is light. Illuminati is about enlightenment. Angelic beings are said to be beings of light, which is true. Ascended masters, aka the enlightened, ascend to the next density of the universe where they exist as beings of literal light. The Holy Grail is about enlightenment. Kundalini awakening is related to enlightenment. The serpent symbolism found worldwide at ancient archaeological sights are all about Kundalini. Yes, it's all connected, but it's ok if you haven't studied all of the same things that I have studied and are therefore unaware of these connections. If you keep studying more things, you'll understand the significance of what I've said above.

You may have noticed that Graham Hancock's show features a number of major questions. I have answers for most of them including the serpent symbolism he finds everywhere, how advanced ancient civilizations were lost, where they were located, the Earth cataclysm cycle and it's machinations, a physics based explanation for astrology and the human aura and crystals, a scientifically verifiable understanding of what the pyramids were used for including documents that were used by the US government as a basis for research that, at the time, was classified, and plenty more.

And again, the fact that you don't know about serpent symbolism doesn't mean it's a nothing burger. Tens of millions of viewers of Graham Hancock's show, Ancient Apocalypse, would disagree with you. Given the high importance placed on serpent symbolism in Egypt, it is clear that when serpent hieroglyph connections are obfuscated repeatedly, there is perhaps a pattern here worth investigating.

The spelling matters. A "dj" in an Egyptian word indicates a connection to "serpent wisdom" (see Matthew 10:16), aka ophis sophi to the Greeks, aka Kundalini awakening of higher chakras, etc.

Djehuti(Thoth), Banebdjedet, Djedd, Djedi(Jedi), Djinn(Jinn), Medjay(Magi)...the last 3 words all had the "dj" obfuscated by etymological variation and that was intentionally done. Again, it's ok that you don't know this, but if you're ignorant of it, that is not an acceptable excuse to dismiss it as nothing.

Again, Graham Hancock's show is extremely popular and one of his biggest questions is about the serpent symbolism found everywhere. I understand the significance of that as do some others out there, e.g. @OMApproach on X. He gets it and he arrived at his understanding independently of me and vice versa.

In fact, the very fact that you think that the spelling doesn't matter is itself validation that the etymological variation psy-op has been largely successful by the perpetrators of it.

Algis 10mo ago 💬 1

Hawk, you are missing my point. We do not regurgitate content produced by someone else. We bring a NOVEL view on Liberation with an emphasis on application - how does one practically liberates him/herself from the restrains of this reality.

If you want to experience it, it's all there on the website, see the testimonials, read the blog, get the seminar itself. If you do not, it's ok, there are other teachings that you've mentioned that are probably more aligned with your interests. It's all good, man!

RedTailHawk 10mo ago 💬 1

Pretty sure I didn't miss any of your points.

You haven't addressed or acknowledged any of my counterpoints though.

If you want to understand why the term "perennial philosophy" exists, let me know.

As usual, people are not receptive, only emitting.

It's not at all surprising that almost nobody knows what serpent symbolism means when the serpent is the symbol of the Divine Feminine...of receptivity itself.

Liberation comes when the Divine Feminine (receptivity) and the Divine Masculine (emissivity) are balanced and united within.

Yin and yang, ka and ba, God the Father and the Holy Spirit, Shiva and Kundalini Shakti, Alpha and Omega, Aleph and Teth(not Tav).

I back up my position with science, religious traditions, and etymology.

In the same way that numbers don't lie but statisticians can use numbers to tell lies, etymology doesn't lie, but liars use words to tell lies.

Algis 10mo ago 💬 1

Hawk, imagine you are coming to Castaneda and telling him, hey dude, your materials are similar to a, b, c, I heard similar stuff from others. Would he care about that? No. His job was to deliver his teachings in his own unique way. That's it. People who read his books draw their own conclusions, get inspired, learn, maybe tell others about those materials.

My job was to deliver our unique materials in my own unique way. That's it. If you are interested, you are welcome to dive in. If you are not, that's fine. I'm not here to prove you wrong or debate teachings of others. It's not my thing.

RedTailHawk 10mo ago 💬 1

The paragraph quoted below was a slap in the face.

"Unless you are using Spelling to perform a magical act, ie you use your voice as an instrument, it doesn't really matter how you spell it in writing. I use Magick in writing to distinguish it from party tricks as you recognized, but that's about it. I don't place much emphasis on it. In the end, if it works, it doesn't really matter how it's called."

You basically said "Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about so I'm going to declare that what you just said doesn't matter."

You fired a shot by addressing my statement on that subject in that way.

A receptive person would say "Oh, that's interesting. I've never heard that before. What's your argument for holding that position?"

That's why you started feeling some heat in my responses. You offered a premature dismissal rooted in ignorance.

Algis 10mo ago 💬 1

Hawk, you keep pushing it. You assumed to know what the content of our Seminar is, without watching it. You thought it's similar to something else, it's like this thing or like that other thing.

I pointed out to you that it's NOT. Twice.

It's a unique content, not found in other places. You can't know that, since you did not watch it.

If you watch it and then compare it to something else, that's fine.

If you want to compare it to something else and debate that something else while ASSUMING to know what we are presenting in our seminar, then I'm not interested in that.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who share your interests. Go debate them.

RedTailHawk 10mo ago

No, I did not assume the content of your course.

You described the content of the course using the words "lucid dreaming".

Lucid dreaming is perhaps the largest aspect of Nagualism. The Nagual and the Tonal switch places when we switch from sleep to wake and the key to lucid dreaming in the Nagual tradition is to merge the Tonal with the Nagual. Lucid dreaming is inextricably baked into the name of the tradition itself.

For that reason, I said that what you are doing is "akin" to Nagualism. Akin simply means related, and they are related via their focus on lucid dreaming.

I think the most obvious problem here is your inability to quote me properly. You keep putting words in my mouth I did not say, which is dumb because it's really easy to read my words and then not change them when making accusations. Do you need a Quotation 101 course to figure this out?

When you misquote someone and then attack that misquotation, that's called a "Strawman" logical fallacy. If you build a strawman that looks like me and then beat the fuck out of it, that doesn't mean you've beaten me in a fight. Do you get it?

Also, yet again, you dodge the points I make and move the goalposts, another logical fallacy. I pointed out how you were being a jackass with respect to the spelling of magick/medjaic topic in my last post. Your reply did not address that at all. You abandoned that point because you realize I'm right and you were being an asshole, so instead of acting with humility and admitting you handled that poorly, you're engaging in logically fallacious arguments and making yourself look like a total ass.

Stop it.

You really have a lot of work left to do before you teach anyone anything.