Rupert Lowe just launched “Restore Britain” in the UK; an online schelling point meant to help organise a minority around certain core principles that the people of the country agree on.

Elon Musk is launching a political party in the US in which the theory is they can control the swing votes between the UniParty.

I’m going to make a prediction that Lowe’s organisation will be FAR more effective (but ultimately nothing more than a can kick). He will become leader of the Tories using this vehicle and they’re going to put people in place who will be called fascists and Nazis because they’re actually going to do stuff that people want if they have power. They might do some real damage but ultimately won’t change the base layer enough to achieve their goal of restoration.

Musk’s party is going to get out-cheated and aside from some good soundbites, they will have little impact on the US’ direction, which will not fundamentally change.

Neither of these are going to “win”. You don’t beat the game playing by their rules - you create a new game and you stack the deck in your favour, then make them play your game which they can’t win.

Lowe’s movement could do this but they won’t, watch it eventually get hi-jacked by Boomercons and split generationally; Musk’s party cannot do this and is DOA.

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We need a new land that we can build something on.

We have it - it’s called #Bitcoin

We don’t need physical land, we need an organised minority on top of this system they can’t control.

Study revolutions in history - they didnt control land, they controlled an organised minority who were all-in and uncompromising in the extreme.

I think we do need physical land that is independent from their fiat rules and regulations. Bitcoin isn't the only thing, I would argue that energy is equally if not more important.

Historically, they have never had this much centralised control.

Physical land just means a place with an address for them to send their goons to destroy you before you get too strong.

You need to learn the lessons from revolutions of the past, and guerrilla tactics and 5th Gen warfare of the present.

What good is some land they can take from you when you could use those funds to drone strike a sitting parliament and destroy the head of the snake?

We’re already over the hump of peak centralisation, we need to be ready for how decentralisation which actually work in practice.

I'm just speculating/spit-balling here so I don't have strong opinions on this.

Going after them with violence isn't likely to work, as much as I would like to. They have a monopoly on violence, we would be no better than them if we did. They want us to be violent so they have reasons to come after us.

There are still a handful of countries that operate - at least to the best of our knowledge - outside of their systems. Granted they tend to be dictatorships, but they seem to be left alone.

If governments are working together, which I think it's indisputable through international organizations, are we better off tackling a system that has been built to coordinate on a worldwide scale, or isolating ourselves from these systems where possible and building something new?

>”Going after them with violence isn't likely to work, as much as I would like to. They have a monopoly on violence, we would be no better than them if we did. They want us to be violent so they have reasons to come after us.”

This is incorrect.

It will work because the more of them that are affected by the violence, the fewer there are to exercise their power. The bench is *laughably* thin, the bench will get scared out of power a few replacements in.

They have a monopoly on the regulated use of violence - they do not have a monopoly on violence itself. See video.

“We would be no better than them” - this is an ideological hangup. Then the question is do you want to win, or do you want the moral high ground because they’re not playing for the latter, they’re playing for the former - to win.

And on the last line quoted - they’re coming as soon as they work out there is a new financial elite whom they don’t inherently have control of. That is inevitable. You need to accept this and protect yourself from the inevitability, maybe work out what fiat price that is so you’ve got a target but accept they’re not just going to have sovereign people living in their realm when there is a Sats race globally.

I left Australia in Feb and moved to Vietnam, for many reasons, but if you read my note back-catalogue you’ll see I’ve been on this line for a while. Maybe check this one: nostr:note1dh22hye0yqvs3nw96utzdwa9tpd8v3ja0yq6h74pnzpj6rr39rws402jfc

And on your last para - see Buckminster Fuller. You build something new. That’s where we’re at.

https://v.nostr.build/D8yr9l2Iz4YmX3aC.mp4

Fair points. Some of what I said is no doubt an ideological hangup.

Still, I'm not sure it would be that easy. It's not just the government, it's the ~70% of people who are supporting them and their efforts. We are also up against the NPCs that have enabled them to get us into the situation we are in. Those people are easily weaponised against dissidents. While one state my be 'thin', most are coordinated and would seek help from outside orgs such as the UN or similar.

They have a monopoly in the sense that they are closest to the money printer and settings laws, so working within the confines of their system you are going to face challenges that you otherwise wouldn't, but I accept that there would be a different set of challenges if we were to attempt something alone.

I am more strongly convicted to breakthrough technologies being the largest distruptors to their control mechanisms, namely Bitcoin and over unity, which have the strongest potential for loosening their grip on everyone.

I agree about SBRs. It's still too soon, more people need to adopt before they do.

Do you think Lenin had 70% onboard with his revolution? How about Robespierre? How about Guevara? Pol Pot?

We’re not up against the NPCs, they will follow whomsoever has power. NPCs don’t put themselves in the mix unless conscripted to do so.

Bitcoiners are a disorganised minority with lots of capital and no power, up against an organised minority with some capital (illusory) but mostly power.

These revolutionaries had little capital, but they were damn well organised.

Organisation is the key. It’s the hard part of decentralisation. Bitcoiners have a lot more capital to do stuff but they’re disorganised AF.

When that changes, the world changes.

A new game is afoot.

No argument there, organisation is key and what they are actively targeting through co-opted movements and invasions of privacy.

Also, Elon admires Nazis.

If he did he’d be about getting rid of The Fed; which he’s not, so he doesn’t, or at least not enough to actually affect change.

Well, that's one point in his favor.

And, that’s a mute

Mute me too please. I come to Nostr to avoid NPCs and you are clearly programmed by thoughts you don’t even understand let alone could point to where they came from.

Musk's job is to first split the vote. Once that happens Musk and Trump will essentially create a "new uniparty" where even if those in power want to push their corrupt version of control then they will be handed our version of "two bad choices" that they will have to pick the lesser of the two evils. The Old Guard will no longer have the influence or be able to vote themselves into power.

I foresee a meritocracy (sp) moving forward based on proof of work and not just a corrupt buddy program of blackmail and control.

We will also shed the Central Bank's (Bankers) version of crony capitalism to were We The People will be deciding what we want to invest in and develope our own organic trade routes with free trade. I believe the long term goal is to have no tariffs like Trump asked about years ago in the famous meeting sitting across the table with his arms crossed as Angela Merkel was standing on the other side.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/11/g7-photo-of-trump-merkel-becomes-classic-art

You sound like you’ve been imbibing Tom Luongo GoldBugAnon slop.

What the shit is that?

Oh speaking of which I have more of a concern with Cloudflare than I do almost anything else because I'm sure they can tell me what brand of ass wipe I use if I had ordered it online. To me they act more of a gatekeeper than Palantir. To me Palantir feels like a way of maintaining critical records of many of the alphabet agencies but potentially removing out of government control. I also do not like this idea because then Palantir is not subject to a FOIA (the Freedom Of Information Act) request.

I understand COMPUSEC theory fairly well but I'm also not much of a run and hide type of individual either. We ran from the Federal Reserve to a new plot of land 250 years ago and they are still a pain in our ass.

Shit scratch that last reply I got confused talking about another conversation. Oppsies.

So what was that you were refering too? I've never heard of that term.

Well you’re fitting square pegs in round holds like Tom because you came with a theory and now everything must fit it.

Trump is 79, he’ll be 83 if he ends his term. Acting like he’s going to be some force beyond this cycle is retarded. He’s setting the family up with Bitcoin, go look.

As if there is some conspiracy between him and Musk. Lol.

The Fed was established in 1913 - not 250 years ago. You gotta nail this stuff or you just reinforce your GoldBugAnon point.

Uh 1913 is just the most recent version of the Federal Reserve. To be a bit more technical this is more like a 3000 year old problem but I figured I could go back only 250 years when The People tried to escape the governmental tyranny of Britian. You may have read about a tea tax in your history books.

Anywho the most recent Federal Reserve imbedded into America is actually the third time.

Hope this helps.

No, The Federal Reserve is The Federal Reserve.

The First Bank of the United States and The Second Bank of the United States were different.

I know my history, don’t need your Luongoanon help.

Oh I get it, just like Nissan and Infinity are totally different.

Or Toyota and Lexus?