yeah, i think you tickled a funny bone with the "there is no nostr elite" point right at the end

that's the one that was most accurate but least discussed, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and survivorship bias

it is the most unspoken thing by the elites, always, that's the last thing they want to do is acknowledge they are set apart even though everything they do sets them apart

anyway, it is a really big stretch, IMO, to assert that this point is manipulative, because it's the thing that causes the most visceral reaction in individuals who match the rest of the profile

anyway, he'll get over it... he always was the least pretentious of the cool kids club

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Denying that there is a hierarchy, when we can map it from the public data set, is ridiculous.

And complaining that some of the people higher in the hierarchy are too aloof, distant, indifferent, or self-serving, is as old as humanity.

Bizarre to claim that is Marxism, on a platform full of rebellious Bitcoiners and Libertarians.

I also reject the logic of "Group A said X, so anyone who says X belongs to Group A". That is an obvious fallacy, unless you can prove that only Group A has ever said something like that.

That's the same lazy tactic they've used in Germany to denounce anyone critical of CBDCs, censorship, or open borders as "Nazis".

as i point out, it's an exploit of survivorship bias... the thing you are defending is not visible in the category you just already excluded it from, and the whole thread of reasoning is leading, if you trace it backwards you see the trick

Cloudfodder's meme was so good. 😁🎯

yeah, he highlighted a base layer aspect of it that was quite clever to point out... "write only relays" 🤣

the absurdity and how it ties in with the i'm too cool crowd was too on target

Well, he can't put the meme back into the box, and it's taken on a life of its own because it fit so well, so he'll just have to get over my expertise in defining and naming things and move on with his life.

Maybe the next time somebody @s someone else, or they see some newbie appear in their replies, they'll be more eager to respond.

that was the whole point

there is a bunch of them that moved from being so distant to making some effort to mix and good on them

i think what causes the cognitive dissonance is that the majority of funding of this protocol to date has been essentially donations from million/billionaires so there's a sense of "don't bite the hand that feeds you" in this

and i think actually, these feeders don't care and are giving the funding out BECAUSE it's about not having this walking on eggshells nonsense

#nostr is #punk was a direct quote from Jack no less, i mean, if his whole purpose isn't in funding a bunch of cats to go after the pigeons i don't know what his purpose was

🤣🤣🤣

It was such a good post, even tho it was just something I tapped in over 5 minutes.

Probably a bit too cutting, but I'm not really known for being nice.

Yeah, Odell was actually one of the first to zap and boost the list. 😂

odell is an alpha tomcat for sure

😂

Still waiting for my hug from Jack. 😂