Replying to Avatar Lyn Alden

As both a tahini lover and seed oil disrespectooor, this is a question I've thought about more than I care to admit.

imo, the tentative answer is somewhere in the middle. With the caveat that I'm not a molecular biologist and I could change my view.

Some of the worst aspects of seed oils in modern processed foods are that they are produced with extremely high heat in an industrial process that damages them, they literally turn rancid, and then various de-odorizing chemicals are used to mask that. There's a million red flags there. And they're in everything. I went down this research rabbit hole like 15 years ago, and then tested various diets on my own body with blood results and such.

Tahini is a more traditional food, able to be made with low-tech and lower-heat methods. Blended up sesame seeds is likely not the worst thing to eat on occasion.

It's kind of like how when people who are too sensitive to eat American bread go to Europe and can eat their bread without obvious consequences. Their breads are lot less acutely bad. They're probably nowhere near an "optimal performance" diet, but there's some damage control there. Same thing for like "Einkorn wheat" and stuff.

I went through a big ketogenic phase, and then seasonal ketogenic, etc. That's kind of where I'm at now: seasonal. I eat tahini only when in Egypt. It's so good, including with Egyptian bread which I otherwise try to minimize, and rather than having all our family meals have to revolve around me, I just adapt to the local diet, eat the parts I love, and then when I want to be more strict, I do it on my own time.

My rule for diets is to optimize them up until they cause stress. Once they cause stress, they start offsetting the good aspects.

And for me, dipping some Egyptian bread into some Egyptian tahini, is worth it on occasion.

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PolyUnsaturated Fatty Acids (PUFA) are unstable and damage your mitochondria as well as cause oxidative stress.

It's not that seed oils are bad universally, it's just that they usually contain high amounts of unstable PUFA. Monounsaturated Fatty Acids are reasonably stable & Saturated Fatty Acids (SFA) actually help stabilise PUFA.

The amount/volume you're consuming matters as does the presence of SFAs (in the meal).

Tahini is used for flavouring (generally not eaten in large amounts) and has 2.6g of PUFA for every 1g SFA. It's not great but not something to worry about. Worry about the fats in deep fried goodies, mayonnaise & creamy sauces.

Palm kernel oil is another seed oil which I don't consider harmful. It has 1g PUFA to every 5.1g SFA. It's the main fat used in SE Asia because it's easily produced & refined. Many cheaply made chips are made with palm oil & is so much less harmful than soy/sunflower/canola oil.

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