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What this misses is that it's all fiction. What's identified at the end of this chain of fictions is also, well, a fiction. Money is a fiction, it's a shared delusion. Companies are a fiction. Creditors owning farmland, that one's a fiction too.

So the answer to the question "to whom" here—"To whom are the debts truly owed?"—is our imaginations. Our imaginations are the ultimate creditor here. Not BlackRock or Vanguard.

A few things that are not fiction: Cantaloupes and getting punched in the face.

Micael 6mo ago 💬 1

I know what you mean. You mean they are legal fictions, a construction of our minds. And that’s right, the government, corporations, are all contracts products of our imagination. But behind those fictions there’s real humans taking real actions with real consequences.

Let me tell you what is not a fiction: how they poison our food, our water, how they fund wars, how they brainwashed us, how they indoctrinate us, how they manipulate us, how they steal our time, wealth and freedom.

So yes, they are fictions, but there’s real humans behind them. Where’s the line dividing the fiction with the reality?

Money can be a fiction but people will work their asses to get it, they will lie, cheat and even kill other humans to obtain it.

So be careful about the ficticios nature of this things, because they can be very real.

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Garbage nsec 6mo ago 💬 2

I totally agree that actions in response to fictions can be painfully (or wonderfully) real. And fiction driving action is basically how intelligence evolves. But sometimes I think it’s healthy to step back and admit that all of these things, even though the actions they drive are very real, are themselves not real at all. The moment we stop believing in them they just disappear.

And then contrast such things with actual things. If I’m walking home in the rain I can stop believing in rain all I want, I’m still getting wet.

Micael 6mo ago 💬 1

Idk man, this sounds like some New age bs

Garbage nsec 6mo ago 💬 1

This is the opposite of new age bs. New age bs is to assume that fictions are real, rather than to acknowledge that fictions as fictions. This is old age practicality.

Micael 6mo ago 💬 1

Hmm okay i think I get what you are saying. We agree rather than disagree.

Garbage nsec 6mo ago

Think so too 🥂

Micael 6mo ago

You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.