Nostr

Here's a reminder of these 3 possibilities -

1. Humans will go extinct soon

2. Without getting better, future humans won't admit they're the same as the humans of today, they'll just look back on humans of today as pieces of shit while pretending they have indeed gotten better.

3. Future humans will be better, and will accurately understand how humans of today are pieces of shit (maybe with rare exceptions like Digit)

I go through life being aware of these possibilities. I don't pretend I'm OK in this era of mental damage and fighting. I look to a future where someone like me could be raised into a good person instead of a piece of shit. What about you?

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YODL 9mo ago

3 seems most likely. 1 seems very remote, and 2 I guess is what happens if 3 doesn't happen.

Do you think humans at present are worse than some point in past? Seems you do. What point was the top then?

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

I'm not sure. Maybe humans have always been this bad and it's just modern technology letting us document it and see it. Maybe we lost a lot of good people in world wars 1 and 2 that sent society into an imbalance where the good couldn't defend itself against the evil anymore, too outnumbered, so we would have peaked sometime in the early or mid 20th century. Or maybe we've been getting worse way longer than that due to new warfare techniques being found and stuff.

YODL 9mo ago

Interesting to think about. The brainwashed bitcoiner in me wants to point at central banking. But I don't really know. Maybe it's been a decline in morality since we starting seeing ourselves as insignificant (around industrial rev I guess) 🤔

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

Central banking is just an idea. If we keep getting worse the more we come up with bad ideas, we were that bad all along, just without the ideas.

A really terrifying possibility is that we just get worse the more we know. Facts, not ideas. Maybe our morality just depends on being wrong about shit, and when we scientifically understand more of the consequences of our choices, life just gets darker. Escaping this would require unimaginable fundamental change.

YODL 9mo ago

Decent reasoning, but I'm snapping out of this doom and gloom.

Life is pretty damn good still. GM 🤗

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

Gm 🤙

TerrestrialOrigin 9mo ago

We're not THAT bad. Yeah, we're doing a climate change, but on the flip side: now Earth for the first time has a chance against something like the dinasaur-killing asteroid.

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

I can't control how I eat or even at least stop eating meat despite knowing it's bad for my soul, the souls around me, the environment, and most of all, the animals.

We're pretty bad.

But future humans could have lab-grown meat and tell themselves they'd never eat the real stuff, without proof, because that's how humans are

TerrestrialOrigin 9mo ago

Eating standards are arbitrary.

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

What do you mean?

TerrestrialOrigin 9mo ago

"eating meat bad" is an arbitrary human consruct. Go tell that to a tiger and see what happens.

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

The topic was how humans are as worthless as shit i.e. feces, not whether tigers eat meat

Either I'm missing something or you're just changing the subject and trying to act like it's sequitur so you don't have to think about why I don't distinctively value you more than feces

TerrestrialOrigin 9mo ago

No, it just seemed from your comment that you somehow tied one's worth to whether or not one eats meat. And my response to that is that it's an arbitrary & subjective standard. Maybe I misunderstood.

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

Your reply is in English, did you ask if it was in English or am I changing the subject to a random thing I noticed?

TerrestrialOrigin 9mo ago

Huh?

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

I didn't ask about anything being arbitrary or subjective

I need more people to join me in trying to have a future with humans that don't deserve to be extinct

TerrestrialOrigin 9mo ago

Ok....

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

You're one of the only people that's tried to help me but if you don't care how humans eat so much meat in this day and age, you don't care about anything

TerrestrialOrigin 9mo ago

Are you ok? I'm sorry if I offended you. :( If you are having a bad time rn & want to talk, my DMs are open. <3

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

I'm sorry for lashing out at you. It's very hard for me to type anything but abuse right now so there's not much point talking

TerrestrialOrigin 9mo ago

No worries. It's ok. I think something's in the eather lately because I've also been on edge these last few weeks. Spring can be a hard season for ppl. <3 I hope you feel better soon!

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 9mo ago

The best use of feces is to be buried underground and used as fertilizer for plants

What can a tiger, which doesn't talk, say that would give me a better use for you than fertilizer?