The worst thing about SimpleX is comvincing people to try it.

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And dropped messages.

I haven't seen this happen yet. Is there any pattern to this behaviour?

most likely related to long lived connections. this problem has existed in Tor since forever, and made me lose hope in it back in 2007 (i was early).

If you had it use a Tor router that makes a new route every hour would that help? Thats been my setup so idk if thats why I haven't experienced it yet

are you running simplex through it directly?

Yea, you can specify a SOCKS5 port in Network and Servers so I set it to a local Tor router

it might be that cuts out at least one potentially unreliable hop in teh path, that's a 33% decrease in drop-out frequency.

I haven't noticed a pattern yet. In the Nostriches group, we found that we all had different numbers for users in the group. Dropped messages have been confirmed with screenshots, and I've detected dropped messages about 3-5 times from noticing people posting to messages I have not seen.

It sucks, because I really liked the features that were promoted, and now I can't trust it as a communication tool. I definetly cannot recommend it to others. 😥

Oh! Okay, I haven't even been able to get enough people to make a group. I feel security concerns would have the other group members populate the missing data for others after the relay deletes it but idk the specifica.

Now I want to look at the documentation to see where they talk about group chat specifics.

i only resisted for lack of desktop app but that's solved now.

Oh, I didnt know they released one recently. I need to grab it!

i haven't had a lot of need to use it yet but it's there.

also, the CLI version is pretty awesome, tbh i'd use it preferentially.

nutty project though - the protocol core is written in Haskell!

While I can use CLI I would prefer not to for speeds sake. Some things are just faster with buttons.

I am not familiar with Haskell. What makes it nutty?

haskell is one of the most functional functional languages ever. its really terse notation and because it generally doesn't use temporary variables, only "pure functions" which copy everything, the compilations can use huge amounts of memory.

yes, the cli version of simplex you have to type the username prefix to every message send, it doesn't have a channel modal interfacing or TUI.

Alright. That does sound a little nutty. Im wondering why they would want pure functional for this.

Yea, a GUI is definitely faster then. Too bad the desktop app doesnt allow synchronization with mobile

the cli and gui don't either. but the database is the same format, two files, i just hard linked them together. my guess is there would be a way to make the mobile do it too, probably the same format.

Unless you are unable to login, than that's 3 times worse than worst.

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