Replying to Avatar Derek Ross

ReplyGuy spam sucks, however it's allowing for the emergence of a stronger and more robust Nostr. If we have a wide open communication protocol, that means that anyone and everyone can participate if they choose to do so. ReplyGuy is nothing. Trust me. It's so insignificant compared to what's coming in the future. ReplyGuy is a wake-up call to developers, but also to users too. None of us should be complacent when we need to be vigilant with our social communication. This is a mere scrimmage for what's coming down the road. Use this time to build solutions. Use this practice game to fine tune your relays.

You can choose paid relays or choose smaller community relays, such as those built on WoT or other metrics.

We have a lot of choices for paid relays. Maybe you'll use nostr:nprofile1qqsrmpp2lmx4u2fl9zmxy7fnwp9rlwxwz5a2j8tep2c376n494z2gtgpzamhxue69uhkxun9v968ytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuegprpmhxue69uhhwetvvdhk6efwdehhxarj9emkjmn9qyt8wumn8ghj76twvfhhstnwdaehgu3wwa5kueg6jsgtg's wss://nostr.wine or nostr:nprofile1qqs99d9qw67th0wr5xh05de4s9k0wjvnkxudkgptq8yg83vtulad30gpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumrpdejqz9rhwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjmcprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wdmksetjv5hxxmmd8wgv5w's wss://nostr.land as your paid relays. You can find more at https://nostr.watch by nostr:nprofile1qqswwud0pvzu362lehm0av6sq4zd97cue5uy0z8f7jgtk0hz368dvmcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszxrhwden5te0dehhxarj9enx6apwwa5h5tnzd9az72445kh.

What are WoT relays? These are a semi-new concept. They can be invite only or they can be constructed via a person's personal Web-of-Trust follow list.

For example: You use use wss://pyramid.fiatjaf.com by nostr:nprofile1qqsrhuxx8l9ex335q7he0f09aej04zpazpl0ne2cgukyawd24mayt8gprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hszxmhwden5te0wfjkccte9emk2um5v4exucn5vvhxxmmd9us2xuyp if you are invited by an existing user. Additionally, you can use wss://wot.utxo.one or wss://nostrelites.org if you're in the Web-of-Trust of either nostr:nprofile1qqsw9n8heusyq0el9f99tveg7r0rhcu9tznatuekxt764m78ymqu36cpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuat50phjummwv5hszymhwden5te0wahhgtn4w3ux7tn0dejj7znxpeu or myself. (Meaning one of us follows you or one of the people we follow follows you, going one layer deep in our social connection.)

More WoT relays will pop-up or already do exist.

As the outbox model grows and gains popularity, smaller community relays will become the normal way that people use Nostr the most, IMO.

If you're a relay operator that's combatting spam, feel free to shill it down below in the comments.

Hey Derek, can you give me a hand here? I'm definitely up for paid relays, and looking at your 2 proposals (nostr.wine, nostr.land), it's not clear to me yet if this is one-pay or pay-per-post or something, I'll figure that out.

What do you suggest? Just use only different paid relays or keep using some free ones too. Or is 1 paid enough (seems unlikely) ? Still fairly new but want to keep learning. Keep doing what you are doing, you are all building something fantastic here

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Nostr.land is monthly subscription.

Nostr.wine is one time pay. One time pay relays expects enough people join per month to pay off the server costs (like a ponzi scheme) or cross-subsidize between products (so it loses money).

You have to buy nostr.wine to get the better relays, like the filter or creator or etc., so it's a sort of freemium model and a lot of people are on it.

Probably would be enough to keep the ReplyGuy sort of stuff out, but it's got a lot of noise, so global is kinda useless.

i have been using nostr.wine since launch maybe a year and a half ago or so. it's probably our best paid relay that we have across nostr.

pay for it and check it out. it's not overly expensive and it's nice to pay for something that you're using.

Ok Derek. I'm a paid member now. Since I have not been here that long I am always a bit skeptical, actually in all my decisions :-) But if you recommend this then I have confidence in it. I have contributed to good oss projects before, glad I can do the same now for Nostr

Thank you kind sir 🫂🍷