Holy shit. They actually killed him.
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US journalist imprisoned and 'tortured' by Ukraine has died – family #news #press
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Of course they did.
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They say they kill people there, they say masses die in the front. But:
- I know personally like more than a dosen Ukrainians. None of their close ones seem to have died.
- None of those I know fled to Lithuania
- None of them is or was at war
- None of them asked for my help in any way
- It was an often encounter with supposed Ukrainian refugees in the streets and shops in Lithuania
- At all times they seemed totally happy, excitedly exploring the western lifestyle. Never saw anybody stressed or upset. Never. Didn't their husbands and brothers back home die at war everyday?
- Now there seem to be much less Ukrainians in the streets. How come? Did the war end?
- When I visited Ukraine in 2019 and used to have colleagues at work from Ukraine, I did not see there anywhere anybody with any hard feelings against Russia, Putin, anything russian, and certainly there was litterally not a single person that looked like capable of fighting in any war against anybody whatsoever.
This is all too weird. As far as I am concerned, there is no real war going on over there, and no good people dieing. Russians and Ukrainians killing their worst criminals to imitate war for the cameras and maybe for several intentionally "random witnesses" is the most I can believe.
Believe what you want, but for me nothing makes sense over there. I would have fled to El Salvador or Russia long ago if it did.
But sure, let's cry hard about this journalist who supposedly died. If so, Biden killed him.
The war was initially limited to NATO backed neo-nazi mafias and the Donbas region. It lasted almost a decade.
Yes, the average ukrainian couldn't care less about the conflict. In fact they voted in opposition to this timeline, but the USA "had" to do its thing and make a regime change operation. Election fraud. Zelensky was never elected by the people.
Involving regular people in the war was the result of yet another NATO psyop.
Not everyone could escape conscription. Many died.
The rublization is real, for "rebuilding" money.
Yes, the war is over, now it's mostly burning money on drones.
In 2019 I travelled across Ukraine day and night, cities and rural, and I did not see a single person who even remotely resembled any neo-nazi that they show on TV.
Unless they never let them out of their secret camps. Because if they did, no matter how they dress, they would still stand out from nerds and such naive faced poor people. I must have seen at least one at least somewhere at least suspicious. But nothing even close.
I don't think they ever represented 1% of the population. How were you expecting to notice them?
I saw some in person, by chance.
There are videos of when they demonstrated in the streets of Kiev. I doubt most of them are still alive. Just useful idiots.
Maybe. I suppose some extremes are possible in some places sometimes. But then it should not take a war to take them out, should it? They could have been used for playing war on TV, as I mentioned. That much I can believe.
El Salvador was obviously much worse (if we believe the TV, because I have never been there) but it was fixed nice and clean with no war, and by who? Certainly the experienced and well organised Russians were nowhere around.
It shouldn't. But Russia also profits from war as much as NATO.
War is good for business, for everyone.
Bukele is an exception to the rule. Not your average career politician.
My point is, that if we take what people like Trump and Bukele are speaking or implying at face value, we are supposed to believe that they achieved what they achieved almost alone or in an allience with no more than a handful other public white hats. Since we have not seen them personally neither with guns nor shovels, it means they did it by speaking and writing, i.e. convincing masses of others to do the right thing. And bitcoin and things like oil prices were an unrelated random occurances helping them.
Well, it does not work that way. Let's take Bukele's case. There was a country hopelessly corrupt: every single citizen was raceteered by literal tatooed thugs. Killing loads of people every day. For decades. Police and army were all in with these mafias and gangs and couldn't and didn't do anything other than imitate their job, by still having some supposedly criminal prisoners and operating courts and all that while there were 2% of population holding hostage the rest. Politicians and bureaucrats were all the same.
Then comes in a naive faced Bukele, speaks great ideas, writes great papers, and in no time convinces the entire corrupt machine of bureaucrats, police and army to do the right thing, lose their bellies, fight the 2% and win like Steven Seagal in the movies without so much as a scratch on either side! And while magically having convinced these guys to drop all their bellies and corruption schemes, he fails to convince even the local media to be on his side. Because that is what the global narrative is and it must remain untouched. This is ridiculuous. There must be:
1. A much bigger alliance than a handful behing Bukele before he even starts
2. They must be very powerful at all levels and capacities to achieve what they did so smoothly
3. To have that power thay must must be incredibly richer and willing to spend than their adversaries.
The same applies to Trump and USA.
Nothing is what it seems at the first glimps.
JFK may have been in reallity much closer to what he appeared, and look how it turned out for him.
I don't think your analysis of El Salvador makes sense.
It's a very small country, you're comparing it to the US, doesn't make sense.
1. The problem was really easy to solve.
2. "without a scratch on either side"? I don't think so, high risk bet, he violated the Constitution, he risked everything.
3. Mainstream media is cancer and should be disregarded.