Deal. use non custodial wallet

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The anticipation is killin me…

I only did 50k for now. Blixt Wallet to Phoenix. 38 sats to send 50k. https://ibb.co/J5Q383S

Blixt Wallet to Muun. 96 sats to send 50k. More than twice as expensive to send to Muun. https://ibb.co/GMN9tgh

more than average but not crazy high

Minimum fee to send the 50k back to Blixt Wallet is 680 sats! 🤯

https://ibb.co/QDYtYTn

Cheaper over here, but still way too high.

Stop using WoS

57 sats to send the 50k back to Blixt Wallet from Phoenix.

https://ibb.co/VQGQYQ0

for me , anything north of 50k sats is an on-chin transaction.

send me an invoice for the 96 sats. Thanks for trying it out

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Also my sats are now trapped in muun for 680 sats to send them back.

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paid

Wallet of Satoshi slightly cheaper!

So much for that theory about WoS being the culprit for higher outgoing fees.

Wos charges the highest fees of any wallet in my experience. Fuck that custodial shit

Wallet of Satoshi is significantly cheaper than Muun.

WoS is probably the best one to onboard noobs with to LN with a few sats. Then graduate to Phoenix or Blixt when they’re ready and need a non-custodial wallet.

Muun is basically custodial for receiving LN until the on-chain transaction confirms back into your wallet from the submarine swap.

It's not a submarine swap. Rather a Turbo channel.

It’s 100% a submarine swap. That’s been confirmed by Muun devs several times.

Turbo channel

I will continue to use Muun. I never use lighting for large amounts anyways. and Muun just works for me. When I accumulate enough sats on lighting, I can so easily send them to cold wallet on-chin for cheap.

It’s not cheap with all the dust those LN payments make. Look at all the 1000-5000 sat dust UTXOs that were in my Muun wallet. I just emptied it on-chain since it would have been even more expensive to use LN with it.

https://mempool.space/tx/600facd14dcf12707d38bb48e448ab2413e9a78e2e387ff79044ac75f2e61972

shit is custodial