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I’m going to be on an ordinals panels as one of the people who is counter arguing the claim that they are good for bitcoin. I decided to brush up on the technicals on how inscriptions work. I am starting to see luke’s perspective on how it is exploiting a loophole in bitcoin’s anti-data-spam mechanisms.

## Storing data in Bitcoin, the “standard” way

The standard way you add “data” to bitcoin is by calling the OP_RETURN opcode. Bitcoin devs noticed that people were storing data (like the bitcoin whitepaper) in the utxo set via large multisig transactions. The problem with this is that this set is unprunable and could grow over time. OP_RETURN outputs on the other-hand are provably prunable and don’t add to utxo bloat.

Here’s an excerpt from the march 2014 0.9.0 release notes that talks about this:

> On OP_RETURN: There was been some confusion and misunderstanding in the community, regarding the OP_RETURN feature in 0.9 and data in the blockchain. This change is not an endorsement of storing data in the blockchain. The OP_RETURN change creates a provably-prunable output, to avoid data storage schemes – some of which were already deployed – that were storing arbitrary data such as images as forever-unspendable TX outputs, bloating bitcoin’s UTXO database.

Storing arbitrary data in the blockchain is still a bad idea; it is less costly and far more efficient to store non-currency data elsewhere.

Much of the work on bitcoin core has been focused on making sure the system continues to function in a decentralized way for its intended purpose in the presence of people trying to abuse it for things like storing data. Bitcoin core has always discouraged this, as it is not designed for storage of images and data, it is meant for moving digital coins around in cyberspace.

To help incentive-align people to not do stupid things, OP_RETURN transactions were not made non-standard, so that they are relayable by peers and miners, but with the caveat:

1. They can only push 40 bytes (later increased to 80,83, I’m guessing to support larger root merkle hashes since that is the only sane usecase for op_return)

Bitcoin also added an option called -datacarriersize which limits the total number of bytes from these outputs that you will relay or mine.

## Why inscriptions are technically an exploit

Inscriptions get around the datacarriersize limit by disguising data as bitcoin script program data via OP_PUSH inside OP_IF blocks. Ordinals do not use OP_RETURN and are not subjected to datacarriersize limits, so noderunners and miners currently have limited control over the total size of this data that they wish to relay and include in blocks. Luke’s fork of bitcoin-core has some options to fight this spam, so hopefully we will see this in core sometime soon as well.

Inscriptions are also taking advantage of features in segwit v1 (witness discount) and v2/taproot (no arbitrary script size limit). Each of these features have interesting and well-justified reasons why they were introduced.

The purpose of the witness discount was to make it cheaper to spend many outputs which helps the reduction of the utxo set size. Inscriptions took advantage of this discount to store monke jpegs disguised as bitcoin scripts. Remember, bitcoin is not for storing data, so anytime bitcoin-devs accidentally make it cheap and easy to relay data then this should be viewed as an exploit. Expect it to be fixed, or at least provide tools to noderunners for fighting this spam.

## Where do we go from here

The interesting part of this story is that people seem to attach value to images stored on the bitcoin blockchain, and they are willing to pay the fee to get it in the block, so non-ideologic miners and people who don’t care about the health and decentralization of bitcoin are happy to pay or collect the fee and move on.

Data should not get a discount, people should pay full price if they want to store data. They should just use op_return and hashes like opentimestamps or any other reasonable protocol storing data in bitcoin.

After going through this analysis I’ve come to the opinion that this is a pretty bad data-spam exploit and bitcoin devs should be working on solutions. Ideological devs like luke who actually care about the health and decentralization of the network are and I’m glad to see it.

So it’s a valid transaction! And why should we do something against valid transaction? Why is somebody right about how to use bitcoin and somebody is wrong? I don’t like Luke’s ideology against inscriptions.

Im fine when he “fixed” it in Knots, but why should we “fix” it in Core?

Let people decide, give them both implementations and see which wins

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Most of the decisions that go into “what is a valid transaction” are based around data size, spam prevention, and performance. If we make it easier to spam then thats not a feature it’s a bug.

For me it’s not spam. It’s a valid use case within the current rules of bitcoin. Not to forget that I get more sats from mining.

Bitcoin has already a spam protection. It’s called transaction fee. No one can “spam” Bitcoin forever because it costs a lot of money and the outcome is zero.

you are assuming that inscriptions are a feature, not a bug. devs are simply fixing bugs. there was a bug in 2010 that allowed the creation of 184 billion btc. that txn at the time was considered a valid txn but again, this was a bug in the software so devs went ahead and fixed it.

just because you can fit 20 people in a car that seats 5 doesn’t mean you should. you can go ahead, but i’d rather not.

Because that was against bitcoins socal contract which says there will never be more than 21 Million Bitcoin.

What is the social contract about inscriptions? That’s why we are discussing the topic.

So, Whirlpool and Paynym is also a bug?

https://x.com/Diverter_NoKYC/status/1732337726924448102

very good point. thank u for this

not even sure what this means but cool

This 👌🏼👌🏼👏🏼👏🏼

They want to censor free markets.. 🤣🤣🤣

Good luck to them 🤣🤣

This argument again and again...

The 2010 bug with 93 billion BTC was also valid...

That was a hard bug because it was against the social consensus rules of bitcoin.

Today the case is different, because we don’t have a consensus that bitcoin transactions should not used for inscriptions.

Changing the limits will change exactly nothing. Most miners are profit oriented and they would extremely stupid to change bitcoin in a way they get a smaller reward.

What really happens with such an update is a soft network split. Your node no longer accepts and forwards inscriptions, but others will. This means your mempool differs from others. This can lead to problems when it comes to calculating transaction fees. Because your node doesn’t see all the high fee transactions miners see.

I let you see it in real time, the fees are rarely staggered.

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It’s nearly a 10 BTC difference but okay 👌🏻

Feel free to censor transactions because you don’t like how people use bitcoin my node will never do so

Spyware is valid software and we normally use antimalware to protect ourselves from them.

So Samurai Whirlpool and Paynym is also spam?

https://x.com/Diverter_NoKYC/status/1732337726924448102

This is allowed by default on bitcoin-core and fits within the acceptable usage since it’s a standard transaction. Luke further tweaking it so that it’s not standard on his pool is a personal choice, if you don’t like it then direct hashpower elsewhere. This is a separate issue from the one described in my post.