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Angels and theophanies are hard to distinguish in the OT. It's possible modalism was taking place distinct from the incarnation. But I think since God is outside of time it was probably Jesus' incarnate body. I know Catholics would agree with me based on what they think about Melchizidek

MichaelJ 2y ago

A good example is Moses' theophany in Exodus, where God passes by and let's Moses see His back. It's hard to say for sure, but personally I suspect Moses saw Jesus in anticipation of the Incarnation.

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MichaelJ 2y ago

The coolest theological speculation I've heard is that Moses' theophany, Elijah's encounter with the "still, small voice," and Jesus' Transfiguration were all the same event, transcending time and space.

Phillip Leslie 2y ago

That’s some marvel cu stuff right there lol

MichaelJ 2y ago

Here's a question for you:

In what way does time exist, do you think? Does only the present truly exist? Does the past continue to exist after it happens? Do past, present, and future all exist at once within some larger substrate?

Phillip Leslie 2y ago

Never thought much about it or studied it

My current conception lol

MichaelJ 2y ago

That's more or less how I think of it. From the perspective of eternity all of time is there at once, but that doesn't make the fact that time is linear and that we move through it any less real.

MichaelJ 2y ago

(I love the diagram btw)

hodlbod 2y ago

That is cool. So I guess moses was standing behind Jesus and Elijah was standing in front of him? Haha

MichaelJ 2y ago

Haha maybe so. IIRC, the Gospels don't say precisely in what orientation Moses and Elijah were standing relative to Jesus 😁

Marakesh 𓅦 2y ago

At Jesus' Transfiguration Moses did see Jesus in anticipation of His death, which interestingly Luke calls His "exodus" in the Greek (Luke 9:31).

MichaelJ 2y ago

And Moses is later identified as a type of Christ. Jesus fulfills the Exodus by leading us out of spiritual slavery to sin.

Marakesh 𓅦 2y ago

And yet no type is as complete as the Antitype, Jesus. Moses, for example, couldn't lead God's people into the Promised Land; that was left for Joshua ("Jesus," in the Greek), to do, who was also a type of Christ. This shows that the Law of Moses (and the Jewish faith) would only get you so far.