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TikTok’s strength is really in the creation tools built in.

The app is miles ahead in video editing capabilities in comparison with anything else.

And of course their “algorithm”

Let’s build creation tools 🛠️

Yeah, That’s what would make the experience of upload videos seamless.

Even something as simple as the hold to record a segment, release to pause recording, and a delete last recorded segment button. Would make a huge difference. Then slowly add other features like adding text overlays.

Are there no OpenSource ones out there in the wild?

Gotta be something

Most of the people I know that use TikTok (and keep sending me links I refuse to even open) do not care about that. They mostly want their bubble.

The good thing with nostr is that the creation client does not have to be the same as the consumption client.

If that makes any sense…

You could have a video creation client that could work for both YT clones and TikTok clones. Most of the tools would be the same.

True but…

Recording on one app, exporting, going to another app, and uploading. Is a very long process in comparison to record -> publish.

I’m just considering the broader nostr, and that fact that many content creators publish to multiple platforms. Sometime the exact same content, sometimes variations of the same content. Of course, that does not apply to all.

My point is, you can create a tik tok like experience for many tik tok users without the needs of fancy video making features. It is estimated that only 55% of TikTok users actually upload content (how much of that is simply dance videos?). TikTok is used by an estimated 18% of global internet users.

Agree. I think you could get far without creation tools even

Professional creators likely use their own tools already not what’s built in. And they are probably responsible for 80% of the content anyway

the algorithm is really what makes Tik Tok tick (very sorry for this pun)

it's not just about determining what to show a user on their For You page to increase their engagement and app use time but it also is about whether a tiktok video that they made should show up on other people's fyp.

How does tiktok know what videos and creators to serve to others? It's easy when that creator has an existing track record but how does it determine whether a new creator is worth serving to others? They have to promote new creators because that how you find talent and keep the content fresh on the platform.

when a new creator who has zero video making and editing experience uses the built in video creation tools to make their first video and it goes viral with a million views because TT made it so, it gives that person a sense of "oh shit, I could totally make it big on this platform." Maybe they do, maybe they don't. spoiler alert: most don't and they spend the rest of their life chasing that high. While they're chasing, they become very loyal (read: addicted) users of the app while also generating new content that could possibly be the next big thing.