Los Angeles area does NOT have the natural resources necessary to support such a large and highly dense human population. I've known this since I was a kid, when they stole our irrigation water from Northern California, when they stole water from Arizona. But people insist on living together in giant unsustainable greasy clumps. The fire spreading is a natural consequence of not having water, which was a natural consequence of putting too many people in that place. People can point fingers at the decisions of officials, but the problem isn't fundamentally solvable with government. Malthus wasn't wrong.

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Malthus remains an idiot. They should desalinate.

your face could use a brick to it.

A native from California (and an Angelino) would say… YES… and NO.

on prop 4?

sprawling suburbia is the result of fiat incentives, which are based on bullshit and their purpose is to maximise the theft of wealth from the many to the few

natural, wild people would want their villas and their vinyards and their herds of sheep, they wouldn't live in ticky tacky little boxes with no soul

it was only in the last 400 years that this has all become so prevalent, and this has been the era of fiat money, when the goldsmiths started to give out deposit certificates and then people started trading them as a method of payment, and modern banking began, about 400 years ago, and quickly we saw the first central bank in france and since then it has been a predictable descent into lunacy

Vineyards! I need a vineyard!

When you get one, design it better than the typical vineyard...

Grapes don't grow here, the soil is poorly draining clay.

Where there's a will, there's a way

i think he's in new zealand, in the swamp that is auckland, i don't think it's any good for that

but there is parts of the country that are good for grapes i believe

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I'm not in Auckland area. But yes we have grape growing regions (Hawkes Bay, Marlborough) that produce stellar wines shipped all around the world.

I drank a Marlborough just the other day

I’m looking forward to visiting NZ in April, are you on the South Island Mike?

I'm in the middle of the North Island. You're welcome here. I'm hosting another nostrich later this month.

Thank you kindly 🙏💜

Ok loon

Spot on .. I worked in Ventura County in 2009 bunch of years ..

I was with ya up till Malthus... This is a government problem, not a humanity problem. Population can and will go much higher, as it has in other parts of the world. There are no limits because there's no limit to human ingenuity.

So far their ingenuity is "lets take the irrigation water from the farms" turning food-producing land into useless desert by order of fiat.

i'm surprised you don't have a concept of how much control the government has arrogated in california, being that you live in another highly socialist shithole country with ridiculously high taxes and administrative burdens

Yeah that's pretty dumb. Also super dumb how we're depleting the aquifers by farming monocultures.

You won’t be shocked to learn that nearly every major fire that I’ve been on that have burned in to residential neighborhoods (I.E. Camp fire in paradise) the water system has failed. The systems are not designed to have a large percentage of people turn on sprinklers and hoses at the same time in addition to fire apparatus drawing water. This is true across the state.

We will setup portable pumps and tanks near lakes, streams and oceans as fill stations as they’re more reliable sources. Hydrants are typically useful only for smaller fires and in the early phases.

Drawing from lakes and oceans makes sense if you can move the water to where it is needed fast enough.

I have 55,000 litres of water in two full tanks that I don't drink from, as a source of firefighting water. There are no hydrants out here.

I just want them to stop turning arable farmland into useless desert. That is my only real problem with LA. Destroying the property values of good farms by fiat order because "LA needs it" and they have more voters to make it happen.

100%, Sacramento is completely insane. Driving on I-5 through the Central Valley you can see all the dead orchards from the lack of water. Wasn’t like that when I was a kid. A lot of water is also wasted into the ocean to meet fiat and arbitrary environmental regs for the brine shrimp or whatever. There’s definitely a balance and California abandoned that concept long ago.

Fire might solve it.

LA isn’t dense but it is large. If it were a compact dense city like big cities of east Asia or Europe then these fires wouldn’t be a big deal because they’d burn wild land in the hills.

trust me purple the commies would find a way to ruin those too

you folks always do

i mean you could make people pay for water but that would be capitalism

so instead you get free water shortage and everybody burns to death

there is plenty of water on earth - but if you live in the desert it won't come to you on its own accord and free of charge

Caught in a mosh, aye?