Sacrifice...

Do whatever you can to NOT use fiat and do not participate in their evil system.

but nowadays I see that instead of "Bitcoin fixes this" it's "Bitcoin perpetuates this".

No matter how many books, articles, guides, conferences, podcasts they consume about how evil is the fiat system, yet they go back using it, instead of creating parallel economies, bitcoin circular economies.

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So don't buy a house or pay rent, or eat, or go buy your kids a treat, or do literally anything that touches fiat? 😆

We all want that, but its a reality for very few, in some very select areas of the world.

If you are not ready or willing to do these sacrifices, then Bitcoin is not for you. Perpetuating the use of fiat will not make Bitcoin stronger but the way around.

I don't even know why are you still using Bitcoin, just use fiat because you have a house, rent to pay...

So if you can't go all in 100% you shouldn't choose to protect your wealth in Bitcoin, got it.

Like I said, come back to reality bro.

Absolutely.

If the majority of people in Bitcoin seeking shelter signed up for the same motifs as you it's a house of cards.

The majority of people in Bitcoin do exactly that. Hate to break it to you.

Your cognitive dissonance is to the roof... you understands nothing from what I just said and from all the material about "why we are in Bitcoin" that I suppose you already read it. Sorry but YNGMI

There's no CD here. You don't get to tell people how to use or interact with Bitcoin.

Your utopia sounds wonderful. It's a world I want to live in and help prosper, but until then, myself and the other people that live in the real world will continue to use and promote useful tools that help us use our Bitcoin to improve our lives and those of our families.

Then is hypocrisy: you praise for something but you do the opposite.

At least be sincere and do not make such bullshit posts about how you go back to use a VISA card and even be proud of using it.

Or we should just consider that you were paid substantially to promote that crap VISA card...

🤣 you're drifting even further from reality now.

When I see a useful response to the note below that isn't just beating your chest and shouting 'SACRIFICE', we can continue. Until then, I think I'm done here. ✌

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ohhh I touched a sensitive subject right (promoting VISA) ?

Human beings making decisions on how to interact day to day make reality. Strike doesn't male reality, VISA doesn't, Saylor doesn't. We make reality when we collectively decide to reject fiat, or embrace it. Which reality do you fight to make?

You don't live in the real world.

Just like everybody else you live in YOUR made up dreamworld that gets formed by your believes.

If you don't take care of your believes they will get crafted by outside forces that may or may not have your best interests at heart.

I still can't buy lumber with bitcoin in my area. Should I then not build for my family?

Your problem is you sometimes get fixated on bitcoin as if its the end goal. Bitcoin is a tool, a means to an end. We need bitcoin to improve our lives. But if bitcoin cant buy my lumber today or my steak today, then I'll need to get creative.

The end goal is eating that steak and building a house where my family can be safe. Bitcoin today can help me do that by preserving my value across time. It is not yet ready to fully take the place of the fiat currency that is asked for when I buy those goods.

That's just reality.

If your approach is "then dont build" or "the dont eat", we just strictly disagree on that point. Difference between us is, i'm not out here trying to force an approach on you. You are, and I dont think thats helpful.

The reality: I am not a hypocrite promoting VISA

If thats your answer to that, this discussion is worthless.

ofc is over, keynessians cannot comprehend what I just said in this thread

Darth, saying people dont understand you is the easy out. Maybe.. just maybe. You're not making sense. 🤯

Nope he's right. Bitcoin is only freedom money when used in a parallel economy. Using it as a commodity to use as collateral in a debt based fiat economy weakens the parallel economy and ensures bitcoin never gets real adoption. We feel strongly about p2p digital cash as did Satoshi. What do you believe in?

I'll bet you satoshi also used fiat currency, even months and years after creating bitcoin. How do you explain that? Why did he not march forward and refuse to participate in a fiat world and stand firmly on his ideologist principles and refuse to trade in anything that had to do with fiat.

Or maybe you're right 😂 maybe he did! So he couldn't buy food and died of starvation!!!! 😵 this is my theory going forward. AND DARTH IS HIS DESCENDANT!

No. He is right you are not willing to put in the work to make it a reality in your world. Making it much easier for everyone that walks in your foot steps afterwards.

Lol. You have no idea what paths I've carved out to make things easier for everyone that has walked my path.

If nobody ever asks for Bitcoin or Monero payment options how are busy sellers meant to learn about it?

God gave you a mouth to ask questions. Use it and stop pretending there is no one willing to sell you lumber for Bitcoin or Monero.

I can attest that there are people once you ask them.

Buying children a fiat treat is so cringe.

You are sacrificing them to live in a world of conformity, coercion and compliance.

If you want to treat your children well become a living example of your values.

Want to buy your family food in the airport during your 12 hour layover? That's an unnecessary "fiat treat"

I wonder how one travels paying only in bitcoin?

Taxi ❌

Bus ❌

Car ? Petrol ❌

Airplane ❌

Bicycle ✅ (if I can find one for BTC)

Now use that to commute to work, take family to church. Get groceries. Visit your mum in another country. Go abroad for a holiday.

I willingly do not have the luxuries of a credit card and yes, I often feel pretty excluded for not supporting Visa or MasterCard when in a DEI regime airport. InClUsIoN, but not when we talk about money. Lol

Flying basically means days of fasting for me. Which is the most healthy way to travel with all the fiat shit food you get there. Else bring your own food for your family!

Haven't had a credit card in years.

Never touch my bank card except to withdraw cash from an ATM. (My salary is in fiat and goes into a bank)

Cool thing is that in Thailand one can buy Bitcoin anonymously because of cardless withdrawal from ATM.

It works since the counterparty at the ATM doesn't need your name to process the transaction. You do that from home on the sofa wjth your phone. They merely send you the QR on the ATM terminal display

We are in this together.

I wonder when you start to entertain the thought that Monero Bros are closer to your heart then Bitcoin pretenders.

Lol, Darth thinks I'm a fed because I use #Monero.

The most unserious and deranged individual in the space.

Darth has some blind spots he is not willing to address. He will wake up when his life depends on the help of real cypherpunks.

Guess what, I wouldn't trust 99% of current Bitcoiners to go against the regime.

Monero community shows up when in need.

Entiendo el dilema, Darth:

Parecería que activos reales (oro y btc) modulan la economía Fiat como dos objetos muy masivos en el espacio profundo, lo harían; orbitando uno al otro, al tiempo que la parte más poderosa, o mejor dotada, le absorbe materia (léase riqueza) al otro.

Hay demasiada riqueza guardada en Fiat como para que sea absorbida rápidamente.

Nada, seguir evangelizado. Las transiciones son así.

Algunas tecnologías, como las que soportan, los distintos medios de comunicación, no se sustituyen y anulan, simplemente se complementan y permanecen. El dinero también es un medio de comunicación y está soportando por tecnología.

La cuestión es que Fiat puede estar modulándose (no son tontos), en su inevitable caída, con cada mejora de precio que ocurre en btc.

Ocurrió en la época del bimetalismo. Ahorro en Oro y consumo diario en Plata.

Saludos.