Matt is the real one.
CD134: SELF HOSTING, START9, AND START OS WITH MATT HILL - nostr:npub126ntw5mnermmj0znhjhgdk8lh2af72sm8qfzq48umdlnhaj9kuns3le9ll
https://cdn.satellite.earth/f537cf407fa7ba7c33f59fcb486318cf1c5e3c85d078e85b8f415edcd2c541ad.mp4
Discussion
Matt Hill has some of the most interesting podcasts.
He talks about all kinds of cool cypherpunk shit.