Does bitkey have Secure element on the HWW?

I know it relies on phone + hww + cloud backup, but ideally the HWW is actually has a secure element.

Looking more like coldcard is only reliable option on the market right now… given I’m not fucking with ledger nonsense anymore…. The unprompted factory reset that just went down with mine is absolutely terrible.

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What's wrong with Trezor?

No secure element. Easily hackable with physical access to HWW

Thanks for explaining your view, that helped me remember my thoughts on this.

My view is you need part of the seed saved on the device and part of it in your brain to avoid physical attacks on the device, so that functionality is more important than a secure element.

Trezor allows that with "13th word" seed setup

Passphrase / durress pin is definitely a good feature. But I do think having a device where the seed is not extractable with physical access is a must have.

I don't see how that would ever be possible without going all the way to a brainwallet

Sounds like the BitBox02 might fit your bill

do checkout Foundation and SeedSigner, neither have secure elements iirc