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If a thought about V4V is causing this much hate, I can understand why people flock to non-bitcoin projects, at least over there, people aren't calling each other losers for doing a blog post about a REAL problem in the community.

But I guess it's easier to shoot the messenger.

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You seem to have a difficult time accepting criticism.

I either react (I thanked you for going into it at least, instead of 90% of the b////s that just look away and act like the freeloading is NOT a problem in this community.-)

What you think of me only affects me as a bitcoiner, who tries to do his best. I appreaciate the comments, even if they're a proof of not getting the message and trying to brand me as self-serving.

I know what to do: I'll act like the large % of this community and sit on my ass, produce nothing and have criticism on anyone who dares to say, create or think anything.

You’ll get muted is what you’ll get. Didn’t even buy me a carrot and still crying in my notifications because you can’t take a little heat.

You not getting a carrot is Value 4 Value

As is you not getting the amount of support you think your work deserves. Thank you for making my point clear. Go make something people like or find people who like what you make. Stop complaining. It will get you nowhere.

on a short term timescale, the fiat system won.

the fiat system is why living "costs so much". its why as a startup business you cannot even afford an additional programmer because their salaries have inflated way beyond what a startup can afford. real startups dont exist anymore, they are replaced by hedge funds which are simply huge corporations protecting their talent moat by playing rediculous lending games. they hire people to DO NOTHING for 350k a year, just to prevent them from providing value somewhere else outside their fund... its nearly impossible to break this cycle.

the government in america made it damn near impossible to pay your fellow value producers in bitcoin, making sure to classify it as property and subject to a slew of anti innovation laws. then they set their sights on cash and payment platforms like paypal, venmo.

the only way i believe v4v can *ever work again (if it ever did), is with bitcoin and a 5 year hodl strategy. if you dont have 5 years to build the momentum, while surviving the fiat world .. then you wont be on "the plateau", you wont ever win. the bitcoin you receive today and spend immediately on something you dont need like a coffee from fiatbucks is going to prevent you or your business from ever taking off.

atlas has shrugged, this is just how things are now. much of the world has turned to UBI and guess what, thats gonna make it even harder to exchange value for value. the fiat you have been paid was stolen directly from your own pocket. the only thing we can look forward to is, people still need things. actually need them. those things if you can produce them have value. you have to find a way to trade the value to others and stack it into bitcoin, and bunker down its gonna be a long hard fucking road.

a dive into how the nostr:npub13ql75nq8rldygpkjke47y893akh5tglqtqzs6cspancaxktthsusvfqcg7 noagenda show runs is a good example of throwing away the value that is created by converting their bitcoin donations to fiat (at John C Devorak's request). He was afraid, because of laws making it very hard to hodl bitcoin at your company. If they had been able to stash that into the business, noagenda would be worth 100x, maybe 1000x what it is now..