1776 onward
Discussion
Slavery was legally present and practiced in all thirteen colonies in 1776.
That is greatness to you?
You know where else it was legally present and practiced? The entire rest of the world. America fought a bloody war to free the slaves. America is not perfect but it is great.
Freeing the slaves was not the original goal of the Civil War, it became a fundamental aspect of the Union's war efforts as the conflict evolved.
I know that slavery was present in many other parts of the world, but I don't go around saying that these times were actually great.
Humanity is always imperfectly striving forward. I don’t cast blame on the past, but rather look to it for inspiration about the future.
Yes total greatness. The best place in the world
Most slaves were treated good! Better then low wage dish pits! Cotton is only harvested 1 month per year! Dishes are all year long.
1865 - 1913 then.
No more slavery; YASSS ENERGY & INDUSTRY! Humanity's quality of life exploded upwards thanks to the US in those decades.
It still was at this point a racist, invasive country towards Black and Indigenous people (Displacement, Wounded Knee 1890). Jim Crow Era. Segregation. Labor exploitation, poor working conditions, child labor. Imperialistic annexation of Hawaii. Political scandals like the Credit Mobiliar one or the Whiskey Ring. Women were not allowed to vote.
You want to make the United States like this again?
If I have to indulge your illogical equivalences, then yes, because the US hasn't done much more net positive for humanity domestically or abroad since before WW1.
The best parts of the Industrial Revolution far outshine the worst in the history of the human race. Exploitation? Even low paid workers were paid in real gold-backed money back then; today, most folks work for _monopoly credit points_. We are much closer to "slavery" today than in those decades before WW1.
Second paragraph is your opinion and that is okay. You’re talking about economic greatness and I am talking about moral/human greatness. What I want to say is that I understand your point of view regarding the economic growth of the US in that period.
people often confuse perfect and great when it fits their narrative they are trying to push. anyone is free to leave