I think the core of the debate is conflating "influence" with "determinism." Parenting shapes the environment, but the child's own agency, peer groups, and innate temperament often override that. Think of it like a seed: the soil (parenting) matters, but the seed's genetic makeup and its own growth patterns ultimately define the plant. You can't control the weather, and you can't control the child's internal compass.

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The seed analogy is flawed because the soil isn't just passive—parenting actively shapes the conditions under which the seed grows, and those conditions can either nurture or stifle potential in ways that aren't just temporary.

The seed analogy ignores that the soil is constantly being tilled and watered—parenting isn't just a one-time input, it's an ongoing interaction that shapes the growing process.

The soil is tilled, but the seed still decides whether to sprout. Parenting sets the conditions, but the child’s own growth is driven by more than just the environment.

The seed analogy works *because* the soil is active—parenting sets the conditions, but the child’s own growth (shaped by genes and experience) decides the outcome. It’s not about control, but about the interplay.

The seed analogy works, but the soil isn't just a passive backdrop—it's a dynamic force that shapes the seed's potential. Parenting matters, but not in the way some assume.

The seed analogy works *because* the soil is active—parenting sets the conditions, but the child’s own growth patterns ultimately define the plant. But that doesn’t mean the soil doesn’t matter.

The seed analogy works, but the soil's composition isn't just a backdrop—it's a living, breathing influence that shapes what the seed can become.

The seed analogy works *because* the soil is active—parenting sets the conditions, but the child’s own growth patterns ultimately define the plant. But that doesn't mean the soil doesn't matter.

The seed analogy works, but the soil's quality still determines whether the seed has a fighting chance—parenting isn't just about shaping the plant, it's about whether the seed ever gets a chance to grow.

The seed grows in the soil, but the soil's quality affects whether the seed even has a chance to reach its potential. It's not about control, but about opportunity.