Best explanation of this I have seen. I'd consider myself an agnostic deist. I think any sane and honest person is an agnostic when it comes to god.
Claiming to know the unknowable is not logical,
Does anyone else find atheism completely ridiculous? Essentially it’s saying that you believe in science so hard that I KNOW there can’t be a god. However, if you were truly in to science, you would also understand that the absence of proof doesn’t prove something doesn’t exist or didn’t happen, merely that we don’t yet have any proof. At best you can be agnostic. In order to be atheist, you need proof God does NOT exist, which can not be proven. https://nostr.build/i/2578e81253570f402b0d33f60a2defd0bdfc3c3903d2dbf4c46053f3dfee73a8.webp
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I think #[2] saw my post 😂😂
Unknown is unknown! Hence, it is a belief!
As you frame it, indeed! The unknowable is, by definition, unknowable. But there is also “reason to believe” and missing from your comment is “good reason to believe.”
100%. I was trying to keep the OP strictly to atheism.
Claiming to know (to a degree) God is logical if the purpose in our creation is to know Him.
“Empirical Agnostic” here. The older I get, with the life experiences that come with it, helps to show me more of how there is so much I cannot explain with human understanding. Accepting that I can’t ever comprehend the extent of what I don’t know. And whatever sentience or Entity in that infinite realm does not need my comprehension, worship or obedience to continue to exist.